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#609242 14-Apr-2012 12:29

Okay, so it's not quite the James Randi Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge, but this will probably end up the same, ie: no proof.

http://www.chemtrailschallenge.com/

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#609752 15-Apr-2012 22:44

BurningBeard: Oldish news, but - MUFON head quits, calls UFOlogy humans deceiving humans. Of course hardcore believers think he was payed off, or a government shill.

Enjoyed the kiwi connection - post war experiments off Whangaparoa peninsula (on Auckland's north shore) trying to generate man made tsunami.

Here's the link to the actual MUFON paper:

http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://scilib.ucsd.edu/sio/hist/Carrion_New%2520Avenues.pdf

The US suffered huge casualties in WWII taking pacific atolls from die-hard Japanese defenders. After the action, someone in NZ with experience of coral blasting had an idea that small tsunami (to overwhelm the atolls) could be generated using explosives and had a team doing experiments in Whangaparoa.

Some of the conspiracy sites are hosting the declassified report of the tests and many are claiming this 'proves' the boxing day tsunami was man-made.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_ciencia_tsunami37.htm

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#609807 16-Apr-2012 08:20

gzt: Some of the conspiracy sites are hosting the declassified report of the tests and many are claiming this 'proves' the boxing day tsunami was man-made.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_ciencia_tsunami37.htm

Yeah, next to nifty youtube videos, de-classified documents seem to be a favourite "smoking gun" for CTists, especially if it's got blanked out bits on it.

Somebody talked about maybe doing something once = they did it and they're still doing it.
A patent exists for something = it's in operation and they're using it on us all right now.

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#609868 16-Apr-2012 10:41

I'd like to see mythbusters give it a go sometime. Guarantee the ending would be - 'in order to generate a wave of that magnitude either [very large number] tons of TNT would be needed or a nuclear explosion of [x] megatons which would be easily detected' - but getting there with crazy experiments along the way would be a fun episode.

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#610014 16-Apr-2012 13:49

gzt: I'd like to see mythbusters give it a go sometime. Guarantee the ending would be - 'in order to generate a wave of that magnitude either [very large number] tons of TNT would be needed or a nuclear explosion of [x] megatons which would be easily detected' - but getting there with crazy experiments along the way would be a fun episode.

Heh, and also that the explosives required would be much more effective if just propelled at / dropped on the target.

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#610133 16-Apr-2012 17:39

NZ Skeptics 2012...

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#617990 1-May-2012 17:13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IWWjaUZMoQ

Bilderberg 2012 and find this on wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_participants#New_Zealand

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#617992 1-May-2012 17:25

cws82us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IWWjaUZMoQ

Bilderberg 2012 and find this on wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_participants#New_Zealand

I wish you conspiracy guys would add some extra text to your posts and explain something about the links you are posting and why you consider them important, etc, and your interpretation of what they mean.

Also, please learn how to use the youtube tag for videos - experiment by creating a test post in the geekzone topic if you need to try it out.

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#617993 1-May-2012 17:27

cws82us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IWWjaUZMoQ

Bilderberg 2012 and find this on wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_participants#New_Zealand

And why do you think this is important? Do fyou think it's a conspiracy and why?

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#618001 1-May-2012 18:02

Also, what makes you think John Key will attend?

The Wikipedia article you linked to was edited to include Key, at almost the same time you posted here, so I'll assume it was you that edited the article to include Key.

All other attendees listed in that article have references, but you forgot to add that information for Key.

Would you care to clarify the reasons you believe Key will attend?

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#618024 1-May-2012 19:02

Alex Jones? REALLY?

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#629324 23-May-2012 09:44

This is perfect: Your Logical Fallacies...

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#2485770 18-May-2020 16:58

In this day full of conspiracy theories (5G causing coronavirus that is actually a Bill Gates ploy to inject everyone with a microchip disguised as a vaccine but actually a US Democratic PArty hoax that will "magically" disappear after the US elections, supported by flat earthers...)

"Why are people who cite videos always wrong?"

And a study:

"Why do people believe in conspiracy theories?"

Or an article"

"A psychologist explains why people cling to conspiracy theories during uncertainty and after traumatic events"

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#2486283 19-May-2020 12:49

freitasm:

In this day full of conspiracy theories (5G causing coronavirus that is actually a Bill Gates ploy to ....<SNIP>

I recently signed up to twitter and bill gates was suggested as a thing I should subscribe to.

Sheeesh, the shutposts that followed!

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#2486518 19-May-2020 18:17

freitasm:

"Why are people who cite videos always wrong?"

Disappointed to find that this didn't link to a video.

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