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  #2349052 6-Nov-2019 17:41
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Ban on use of mobile phones while driving
(1)
A driver must not, while driving a vehicle,—
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(1A)Subclause (1) is overridden by subclauses (2) to (7).
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(6) A driver may, while driving a vehicle, use a mobile phone to make, receive, or terminate a telephone call if the vehicle has stopped for a reason other than the normal starting and stopping of vehicles in a flow of traffic.




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  #2349066 6-Nov-2019 18:07
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MadEngineer: Ban on use of mobile phones while driving
(1)
A driver must not, while driving a vehicle,—
[snip]

(1A)Subclause (1) is overridden by subclauses (2) to (7).
[snip]

(6) A driver may, while driving a vehicle, use a mobile phone to make, receive, or terminate a telephone call if the vehicle has stopped for a reason other than the normal starting and stopping of vehicles in a flow of traffic.

 

i would say if you have your engine on and you are still on a public road then you would be in trouble.





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  #2349069 6-Nov-2019 18:15
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vexxxboy:

 

MadEngineer:

(6) A driver may, while driving a vehicle, use a mobile phone to make, receive, or terminate a telephone call if the vehicle has stopped for a reason other than the normal starting and stopping of vehicles in a flow of traffic.

 

i would say if you have your engine on and you are still on a public road then you would be in trouble.

 

 

Till someone takes this to court then its anyones guess what they will interpret the normal starting and stopping of vehicles to be. IMO it would be anytime there is a traffic jam beyond the norm, but to someone else that might count as normal. Its just another example of rushed badly written laws that govt so love to do.





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  #2349451 7-Nov-2019 13:30
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New Zealand supermarkets, for a range of reasons: 

 

1. There are only two of them. Everything else is just the same company under a different name.

 

2. They are franchises. This is applying the McDonalds formula to grocery shopping: Everywhere you go, you get exactly the same as everywhere else. No individual shop is allowed to deviate from the dictates of a distant Head Office. 

 

3. The companies force exclusivity agreements on suppliers. Some things are only available in one company's franchises, some things in another. This means that every time I go shopping, I have to do it twice.  Maybe not a problem if you happen to live in town and the shops are close by. I don’t.

 

4. They are franchises. Everything is one size fits all. The days when your local shop would carry special items just for you are long gone.

 

5. They still have not learned how to stock-take. Half the time the thing I want is not available. This really sucks because I live a long way away.

 

6. Suppliers come up with new products I really like, then disappear them forever after a few weeks. Familiar items also regularly vanish into black holes. This is really irritating. It is not the fault of the supermarkets, but it happens in the supermarkets so I blame them anyway.

 

7. They are franchises.





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  #2349469 7-Nov-2019 14:40
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I think you forgot to mention franchises.





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  #2349471 7-Nov-2019 14:41
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I am honestly surprised you didn't make a bigger deal about the franchise element of your complaint, or franchises for that matter.

 

 


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  #2349561 7-Nov-2019 16:31
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Poor service: case in point - today I when to a store and asked, “Do you have any XYZ?”
The curt answer was, “No”.

Could there not have been a more customer friendly way of dealing with this, such as, “We don’t currently, but let me look in the system for when our next shipment is due/whether one of our other stores has stock/whether I can special-order that for you”...?

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  #2349779 7-Nov-2019 20:56
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Threads asking for the best product recommendation but excluding certain manufacturers (generally Apple) for religious reasons.

 

I don't get how this is still a thing in 2019 when everything mostly works with everything.


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  #2349781 7-Nov-2019 21:00
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Handle9:

 

Threads asking for the best product recommendation but excluding certain manufacturers (generally Apple) for religious reasons.

 

I don't get how this is still a thing in 2019 when everything mostly works with everything.

 

 

There is nothing wrong with specifying a brand preference or operating system preference. I, for example, would be extremely hesitant to buy Apple as I am heavily invested in the Android ecosystem and it would require the purchase of apps all over again. 

 

Also, some platforms are more structured at the detriment to flexibility and vice versa. 

 

 


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  #2349857 7-Nov-2019 21:59
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New World & Pack n Save are locally owned and fit under the franchise description. Countdowns are all owned by the parent organisation.


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  #2349890 8-Nov-2019 04:05
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DarthKermit:

 

New World & Pack n Save are locally owned and fit under the franchise description. Countdowns are all owned by the parent organisation.

 

 

Yep - NW and P n S are franchised by Foodstuffs NZ Limited, which is a co-op structured organisation, and Countdown is owned by Woolworths in Australia - so not even a NZ-owned organisation 





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  #2350102 8-Nov-2019 11:06
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Rikkitic:

 

New Zealand supermarkets, for a range of reasons: 

 

5. They still have not learned how to stock-take. Half the time the thing I want is not available. This really sucks because I live a long way away.

 

6. Suppliers come up with new products I really like, then disappear them forever after a few weeks. Familiar items also regularly vanish into black holes. This is really irritating. It is not the fault of the supermarkets, but it happens in the supermarkets so I blame them anyway.

 

 

 

 

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  #2350126 8-Nov-2019 12:37
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Rikkitic:

 

New Zealand supermarkets, for a range of reasons: 

 

1. There are only two of them. Everything else is just the same company under a different name.

 

2. They are franchises. This is applying the McDonalds formula to grocery shopping: Everywhere you go, you get exactly the same as everywhere else. No individual shop is allowed to deviate from the dictates of a distant Head Office. 

 

3. The companies force exclusivity agreements on suppliers. Some things are only available in one company's franchises, some things in another. This means that every time I go shopping, I have to do it twice.  Maybe not a problem if you happen to live in town and the shops are close by. I don’t.

 

4. They are franchises. Everything is one size fits all. The days when your local shop would carry special items just for you are long gone.

 

5. They still have not learned how to stock-take. Half the time the thing I want is not available. This really sucks because I live a long way away.

 

6. Suppliers come up with new products I really like, then disappear them forever after a few weeks. Familiar items also regularly vanish into black holes. This is really irritating. It is not the fault of the supermarkets, but it happens in the supermarkets so I blame them anyway.

 

7. They are franchises.

 

 

 

 

I agree - in particular with (5) and (6).

 

 

 

Bread for example. Around this area there are exactly 2 kinds of wholemeal bread available in supermarkets. The same two kinds of bread have been available day in, day out for well over 10 years now. Wholemeal bread is much better for you than white bread, so in a country with obesity and diabetes issues, wholemeal bread should be being pushed to be the first choice. One way to do that is to have a variety - for example, stoneground (stoneground flour is reputedly better for you), organic (better for NZ, better for you), various combinations of grains and seeds, malted granary flour and so on.

 

But no. Just the same old dull, repetitious, unimaginitive air-filled white junk bread for mile upon mile of shelving. For heaven's sake, try making something new once in a while!!






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  #2350244 8-Nov-2019 14:26
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Geektastic:

 

Bread for example. Around this area there are exactly 2 kinds of wholemeal bread available in supermarkets. The same two kinds of bread have been available day in, day out for well over 10 years now. Wholemeal bread is much better for you than white bread, so in a country with obesity and diabetes issues, wholemeal bread should be being pushed to be the first choice. One way to do that is to have a variety - for example, stoneground (stoneground flour is reputedly better for you), organic (better for NZ, better for you), various combinations of grains and seeds, malted granary flour and so on.

 

But no. Just the same old dull, repetitious, unimaginitive air-filled white junk bread for mile upon mile of shelving. For heaven's sake, try making something new once in a while!!

 



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  #2350373 8-Nov-2019 18:30
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networkn:

Handle9:


Threads asking for the best product recommendation but excluding certain manufacturers (generally Apple) for religious reasons.


I don't get how this is still a thing in 2019 when everything mostly works with everything.



There is nothing wrong with specifying a brand preference or operating system preference. I, for example, would be extremely hesitant to buy Apple as I am heavily invested in the Android ecosystem and it would require the purchase of apps all over again. 


Also, some platforms are more structured at the detriment to flexibility and vice versa. 


 



Lol. When people won't consider a product independent of its utility it's religious, not objective.

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