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#533414 14-Oct-2011 15:48

MikeSkyrme:
Old Grey Geek: "Too late. Labour (as usual) were on that old horse straight away"
That is the job of the opposition.

The job of the Opposition is to keep the governing party in check.

Their job is not to try to take cheap potshots based on unfounded, ill informed and uneducated opinions of the media.

Phil Goff cleaning a penguin and shovelling a bit of oil infused sand is pure opportunism. He, and the Green party, have not offered one effective solution to the incident. I do not expect them to, as I do not expect John Key to. That is not their job, it is the job of the experts.

It really is a pity the media are not accountable for the mass hysteria they are creating.

If only more people could see things this way, instead of falling for the media/political BS that keeps happening!

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#533424 14-Oct-2011 16:09

OMG
https://www.facebook.com/notes/michelle-lake/the-grounding-of-the-mv-rena-was-deliberate-and-a-false-flag-event-says-maritime/260854097289682

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#533436 14-Oct-2011 16:34

TheUngeek: OMG
https://www.facebook.com/notes/michelle-lake/the-grounding-of-the-mv-rena-was-deliberate-and-a-false-flag-event-says-maritime/260854097289682

That's just dumb and obviously made up. I doubt anyone will believe a word of it. (apart from the usual suspects that is..)

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#533438 14-Oct-2011 16:37

Yeah.
I still get scared when I'm reminded many do believe that stuff though

blakamin

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#533444 14-Oct-2011 16:56

They're all nucking futs!

oxnsox

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#533450 14-Oct-2011 17:16

TheUngeek: OMG
https://www.facebook.com/notes/michelle-lake/the-grounding-of-the-mv-rena-was-deliberate-and-a-false-flag-event-says-maritime/260854097289682

The scariest thing about this rant is that the person who wrote it actually believes that it's believable.....

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#533463 14-Oct-2011 18:13

I got about 5 lines into that dribble before it became unbearable...

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#533522 14-Oct-2011 22:05

I have become hardened and unfortunately cynical about such events. over the course of the planets lifetime, events mind bogglingly bigger than this have destroyed what would seem an incredibly huge amount of life on land, and in the sea, but somehow, the ocean is not fully polluted, and species still thrive.

This is engine oil, a finite amount of it, and while it's going to have an impact, it's going to be a drop in the bucket compared to the recent BP oil well "disaster", which has miraculously? disappeared off the news radar, which in turn was a drop in the bucket of other natural distasters that have occured over centuries, when under water volcanoes or tsunamis killed 500 times more wildlife in an fraction of the time.

Its horrible, no argument there, as I said, I have just become jaded :P

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#533623 15-Oct-2011 10:30

TheUngeek: OMG
https://www.facebook.com/notes/michelle-lake/the-grounding-of-the-mv-rena-was-deliberate-and-a-false-flag-event-says-maritime/260854097289682

Oh wow, I looked up the author's profile... bonkers, absolutely bonkers. Full of it too.

My very metal Doctor Who theme

Byrned

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#533632 15-Oct-2011 10:51

BurningBeard:
TheUngeek: OMG
https://www.facebook.com/notes/michelle-lake/the-grounding-of-the-mv-rena-was-deliberate-and-a-false-flag-event-says-maritime/260854097289682

Oh wow, I looked up the author's profile... bonkers, absolutely bonkers. Full of it too.

Article on Stuff now as well.. says it all really

Byrned

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#533633 15-Oct-2011 10:54

Well that's weird - just went to have a look at it again and link to it but its gone. Can't find any existance of it.

crikarika

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#533635 15-Oct-2011 11:01

I'm here in TAuranga and signed up to help clean up. Went around and took some pictures (14th) of pilot bay, alonng the strip and Papamoa. They don't do it justice, they don't convey the rank stench of petrol, the atmosphere or the emotion in the air. Here they are if you'd like to look I've made it public

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/103218050678820141838/albums/5663207009423574321?hl=en

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#533666 15-Oct-2011 13:08

Byrned:
BurningBeard:
TheUngeek: OMG
https://www.facebook.com/notes/michelle-lake/the-grounding-of-the-mv-rena-was-deliberate-and-a-false-flag-event-says-maritime/260854097289682

Oh wow, I looked up the author's profile... bonkers, absolutely bonkers. Full of it too.

Article on Stuff now as well.. says it all really

No, the stuff article is very different:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/rena-crisis/5789174/Deliberate-course-sent-Rena-to-reef

The article is just saying the course taken to land on the rock was a straight line:

"The charts Mr Riding made of the Rena's course and speed were made using specialist technology and software developed by Marico Marine. The technology receives coded transponder transmissions that the ship's own instruments must transmit. Another company, Teamtalk, delivers the data from remote reception sites throughout New Zealand and data – containing the ship's identification, speed, course and GPS location – is decoded live. The data is then plotted on electronic navigation charts to show exactly where the ship went and exactly what speed it was doing at Greenwich mean time"

So, that's how they got the data, but it is not yet clear to me how they are extrapolating from that to say the course taken was the course intended unless they have an interface to the ship navigation system as well. In addition, they are not saying that any members of the crew or command knew they were going to hit the reef.

[Edit: But we can assume, given that charges have been laid against the captain and one other ships officer, that the crown must have some cause to suspect negligence at the very least, but at what stage and part of the navigation process it is not yet clear]

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#533675 15-Oct-2011 13:31

Herald has put up a timeline type article covering the sequence of events from the impact:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10759216

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#533677 15-Oct-2011 13:39

oxnsox:
TheUngeek: OMG
https://www.facebook.com/notes/michelle-lake/the-grounding-of-the-mv-rena-was-deliberate-and-a-false-flag-event-says-maritime/260854097289682

The scariest thing about this rant is that the person who wrote it actually believes that it's believable.....

I believe there is truth within lies & lies within truth, I believe neither the official line nor the conspiratorial one.

Interesting that independent observers are claiming deliberate, BUT either way, to narrow it down to a single scope, could there any truth to the ship transporting yellow cake uranium? Australia is a major player in that arena and produces a lot...

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