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#3053685 23-Mar-2023 10:49

BlueShift:

gzt: why is palm oil called a vegetable oil when it comes from a fruit on a tree?

Because its not an animal oil or a mineral oil?

Agree. In game of 20 questions it would definitely be considered vegetable.

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#3053688 23-Mar-2023 11:00

MikeAqua:

Agree. In game of 20 questions it would definitely be considered vegetable.

So is KY jelly also considered Palm oil ? .... ROTFLMAO

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#3053768 23-Mar-2023 12:36

All palm oil is vegetable oil, not all vegetable oil is palm oil.

Looks like KY is 50/50 mineral/vegetable. Depending on how you classify propylene glycol.

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#3053774 23-Mar-2023 13:11

SomeoneSomewhere: All palm oil is vegetable oil, not all vegetable oil is palm oil.

Looks like KY is 50/50 mineral/vegetable. Depending on how you classify propylene glycol.

Haha I think you missed the joke - ALL oils can be palm oil, depending on how adventurous you are...

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#3053841 23-Mar-2023 18:10

This photo of the new North Auckland highway, presumably intended as the "before" shot for the next lot of heavy rain.

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#3054099 24-Mar-2023 13:16

My brain hurts... and someone needs to buy this cop a beer!

https://twitter.com/kelvin_morganNZ/status/1638011282954809344 (videos, ~10 minutes)

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#3055287 27-Mar-2023 12:53

So we get "bug report" today about our software not talking to matching software on a server. They included a packet capture, the client version was from 2012, the server version from 2002. So they were complaining that a ten- year-old obsolete version of the client wouldn't talk to a twenty-year-old obsolete version of the server (which, incidentally, has at least two solid pages of CVEs, including several remote code execution ones).

I'm thinking of sending them the following response:

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#3055296 27-Mar-2023 13:33

Are you going to get the dreaded 'but it was working yesterday' next?

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#3055393 27-Mar-2023 13:49

gzt: Are you going to get the dreaded 'but it was working yesterday' next?

No, that's a different customer who is chronically unable to configure their server-side code, we've had all of these and more:

It was working yesterday but doesn't work today -> You've rebuilt your server (which you forgot to mention in the email) and forgot to enable XXX on it.

It dies with a SIGILL on an XYZ CPU -> It was developed on a machine with an XYZ CPU and doesn't SIGILL.

It doesn't work with a server running X-embedded-CPU -> One of the servers used in the regression testing is an X-embedded CPU so it definitely works with that.

It doesn't work with server version XYZ -> It was developed using server version XYZ, a.k.a. "the currently shipping version", it definitely works with that.

In every single case the problem has been that they don't know how to configure their server-side code ("server" in this case being SCADA devices, not standard servers), apart from the SIGILL, not sure how they managed that (I mean, I can speculate, you can do it with appropriate march/mtune options and cross-compiling, but with them who knows). The really crazy ones are things like "It doesn't work on a STM32F446RET6 specifically even though it works on every other STM32F4 we have", because apparently that one model and stepping of CPU has custom microcode to check for and prevent the software from working.

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#3055643 28-Mar-2023 01:54

Was filling out an updated supplier agreement for a customer just now and you have to choose categories of things you supply. Since we're security I chose that as the top-level category, and quickly realised that their idea of security and mine weren't quite the same: Conventional War Weapons, Launchers, Light Weapons and Ammunition, Guided Missiles (subcategories like Air to air missiles, Air to surface missiles, Antiballistic missiles, and that wasn't even all of the A- ones), and so on.

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#3055645 28-Mar-2023 04:59

The need for security is different for everyone. 😆

Qui nihil scit, omnia credere debet.
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In effect we have everything to hide from someone, and no idea who someone is.

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#3055797 28-Mar-2023 13:46

I'm working from home this afternoon and just witnessed a council worker coming out to look at a drain that blocks every time there's rain. He pulled all the gunk out of it, so will it get blocked again next time? Yes, yes it will. The gunk was left in the gutter next to the drain, so will simply get washed back into it again.

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#3055819 28-Mar-2023 14:13

Behodar:
I'm working from home this afternoon and just witnessed a council worker coming out to look at a drain that blocks every time there's rain. He pulled all the gunk out of it, so will it get blocked again next time? Yes, yes it will. The gunk was left in the gutter next to the drain, so will simply get washed back into it again.

And does that annoy you?

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#3055828 28-Mar-2023 14:48

Behodar:

I'm working from home this afternoon and just witnessed a council worker coming out to look at a drain that blocks every time there's rain. He pulled all the gunk out of it, so will it get blocked again next time? Yes, yes it will. The gunk was left in the gutter next to the drain, so will simply get washed back into it again.

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#3055862 28-Mar-2023 15:40

Jase2985:

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