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Kiwifruta

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#1418454 2-Nov-2015 05:02

DizzyD: Kids nowadays loves saying "Me and my friends" etc.

I was always taught to put myself last when referring to myself in a sentence. Ie, "My friends and I".

Nowadays I'm really not sure which one is grammatically correct. It was more a case of just common courtesy.

I is for the subject of the sentence, me for the object (direct and indirect).

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#1418644 2-Nov-2015 10:50

Kiwifruta:
DizzyD: Kids nowadays loves saying "Me and my friends" etc.

I was always taught to put myself last when referring to myself in a sentence. Ie, "My friends and I".

Nowadays I'm really not sure which one is grammatically correct. It was more a case of just common courtesy.

I is for the subject of the sentence, me for the object (direct and indirect).

No no, he's referring to whether the sentence should lead in with oneself or with the other individuals being referenced. He is correct that conventional teaching is that the sentence leads in with the other individuals ("My friends and I") and to be honest it does read nicer. I don't know if there's a reason other than courtesy why it was done like that.

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#1418654 2-Nov-2015 11:15

Kyanar:
Kiwifruta:
DizzyD: Kids nowadays loves saying "Me and my friends" etc.

I was always taught to put myself last when referring to myself in a sentence. Ie, "My friends and I".

Nowadays I'm really not sure which one is grammatically correct. It was more a case of just common courtesy.

I is for the subject of the sentence, me for the object (direct and indirect).

No no, he's referring to whether the sentence should lead in with oneself or with the other individuals being referenced. He is correct that conventional teaching is that the sentence leads in with the other individuals ("My friends and I") and to be honest it does read nicer. I don't know if there's a reason other than courtesy why it was done like that.

Kyanar, thank you, yes you are right.

I was also highlighting that we cannot simply swap the "Me and my friends" for "My friends and I" in a sentence.

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#1422077 6-Nov-2015 00:39

What, nobody updated this thread on Guy Fox? ; ).

Imho many of these kind of things are just irrational prejudice and frequently wrong anyway.

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#1422187 6-Nov-2015 09:36

Kyanar:
Kiwifruta:
DizzyD: Kids nowadays loves saying "Me and my friends" etc.

I was always taught to put myself last when referring to myself in a sentence. Ie, "My friends and I".

Nowadays I'm really not sure which one is grammatically correct. It was more a case of just common courtesy.

I is for the subject of the sentence, me for the object (direct and indirect).

No no, he's referring to whether the sentence should lead in with oneself or with the other individuals being referenced. He is correct that conventional teaching is that the sentence leads in with the other individuals ("My friends and I") and to be honest it does read nicer. I don't know if there's a reason other than courtesy why it was done like that.

Who remembers the TV Show "Me and My Girl" from back in the day?

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#1422193 6-Nov-2015 09:46

I concentrate on the what not the how of what is being communicated.

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#1422253 6-Nov-2015 10:56

There's tons of filler words that are becoming more and more prevalent. To be honest if their use eliminates the need to resort to UM and AH 100 times a sentence then I'm ok with it.

E.G. I tend to say "right?" and the end of sentences quite often. I've noticed it more and more of myself in the last 2 years or so.

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#1422296 6-Nov-2015 11:44

MikeB4: I concentrate on the what not the how of what is being communicated.

Agreed, however sometimes a poor how can miscommunicate the what.

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#1422966 7-Nov-2015 21:27

Geektastic: I've notice a curious repurposing of the word 'there' recently as follows (some examples):

(on the phone) "What's your name there?" (note: my name here is the same as it is anywhere else...)

(on the phone) "Thanks for waiting there." (note: where else would I wait if I am talking to you on the phone?)

It seems entirely superfluous and a quite recent trend. Anyone else noticed and why is it suddenly happening?

Isn't that an Irish thing?

Like always adding "So..."

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