I was watching one news yesterday and they reported you can install ESP in you car for $1000.
Where can I do that? I have a Subaru wagon 4WD 2000 ...
I kinda didn't believe the news report but thought I'd ask!
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Geektastic: I've noticed (on a related note) that the cars they use in adverts involving stopping quickly to avoid accidents invariably lack ABS.
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joker97: Not protons and I'm not sure about Chinese cars
Considering many chinese cars appear to use very old designs which they have purchased on license from known manufacturers, I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't buy a chinese car based on that, as you may as well just buy a second hand top brand car, which will liekly be less anyway. If buying new, I would only buy a car with ESP, as it is money well spent.
joker97: Not protons and I'm not sure about Chinese cars
Fred99:joker97: Not protons and I'm not sure about Chinese cars
From a quick check, all Proton models listed for sale in NZ, and the cheapest and nastiest Chinese Chery "J3" have ABS as standard.
Most of the Proton models also had ESC.
All of the "Great Wall" utes have ABS. Lack of ESC had them lambasted in Aussie - but comparing them with non-chinese models at (usually over) twice the price.
They are probably abject pieces of garbage, but the reality is that despite horrible publicity (much of it probably justified), they're actually probably just as safe - or safer - vehicles than what you'd be able to buy with the same money in the used car market - which might (if you're lucky) find you a 5 year old Hilux or Nissan etc.
Geektastic: I've noticed (on a related note) that the cars they use in adverts involving stopping quickly to avoid accidents invariably lack ABS.
My father had ABS in a Merc he bought in the 80's. Surely no cars exist 25 years later (other than classics) that lack this very basic safety feature? Even Triumph were fitting it to cars in 1972!
Klipspringer: Braking is actually a skill. ABS is for those of us who can't be bothered about learning how to stop a car in the shortest possible time.
At the end of the day, all it does is prevent the wheels from locking up. If you know how to "pumpt the brakes" you can achieve the same stopping distance if you are in a car with ABS or not (providing all other factors are equal).
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Klipspringer: At the end of the day, all it does is prevent the wheels from locking up. If you know how to "pumpt the brakes" you can achieve the same stopping distance if you are in a car with ABS or not (providing all other factors are equal).
ABS also only operates above a certain speed. So a person who does not actually know how to operate the brakes properly in a car with ABS is probably worse off at low speed! Maybe this explains the high amount of low speed crashes we have these days. I seems to recall there are also some disadvantages with ABS breaking on snow or loose gravel.
Klipspringer:
ABS also only operates above a certain speed. So a person who does not actually know how to operate the brakes properly in a car with ABS is probably worse off at low speed! Maybe this explains the high amount of low speed crashes we have these days. I seems to recall there are also some disadvantages with ABS breaking on snow or loose gravel.
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Geektastic: I've noticed (on a related note) that the cars they use in adverts involving stopping quickly to avoid accidents invariably lack ABS.
My father had ABS in a Merc he bought in the 80's. Surely no cars exist 25 years later (other than classics) that lack this very basic safety feature? Even Triumph were fitting it to cars in 1972!
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