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Topic # 159916 17-Dec-2014 10:08

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11375385

132 Kids Dead and their teacher burned alive in front of them. As a parent I can't imagine much worse, I can't understand how anyone could do this type of this.

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Reply # 1198918 17-Dec-2014 10:32

I dont think there is anyway to understand this kind of insanity. Just so sad...

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Reply # 1198946 17-Dec-2014 11:04

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There are some groups of people in the world who, if they were cells in your body, doctors would cut them out and destroy them to preserve the rest of you.

I err towards terminating people like this with extreme prejudice. No trial, no lawyers. Just a quiet bullet in the night.

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Reply # 1198966 17-Dec-2014 11:25

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Religious fanatics (of any kind) are dangerous and evil.

Makes me glad to live in a country like NZ where we don't murder each other over our religious and political differences.

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Reply # 1198969 17-Dec-2014 11:29

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Religion is the last great nonsense we need to get rid of.

How adults can believe such patent drivel is quite beyond me - much less how that drivel can be counted adequate reason to cut someone's head off or blow up a bus etc.

We should start by removing all state privilege for religion and all references to it in anthems, oaths etc etc.

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Reply # 1198976 17-Dec-2014 11:36

Geektastic: Religion is the last great nonsense we need to get rid of.

How adults can believe such patent drivel is quite beyond me - much less how that drivel can be counted adequate reason to cut someone's head off or blow up a bus etc.

We should start by removing all state privilege for religion and all references to it in anthems, oaths etc etc.

Along with all the evil committed in the world, a great deal of good has been done in the name of God and Religion (Charity has it's roots in religion). I think it's unfair to suggest its' done away with completely. I personally know a few people who
have had terrible things happen to them (Loss of multiple children etc) and their faith has been of incredible comfort in their time of need. To take this away from people because some people do bad things with it, isn't a solution I would be comfortable with.

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Reply # 1198981 17-Dec-2014 11:44

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Geektastic: There are some groups of people in the world who, if they were cells in your body, doctors would cut them out and destroy them to preserve the rest of you.

I err towards terminating people like this with extreme prejudice. No trial, no lawyers. Just a quiet bullet in the night.

Kinda like what they did to all those kids, huh?

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Reply # 1198989 17-Dec-2014 11:54

Following the #PeshawarAttack since last night and it is heartbreaking to see some of the photos and information coming out.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/PeshawarAttack?src=tren

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Reply # 1198992 17-Dec-2014 11:57

networkn:... in the name of God and Religion...

These are two quite disparate things in my view.

There may or may not be a greater being who created everything and anything. (Although I personally don't believe there is such a 'thing').

Religion is entirely man-made.

Most of the trouble in the world is caused by people wanting to be important. (T.S. Eliot)

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Reply # 1198996 17-Dec-2014 11:59

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floydbloke:
networkn:... in the name of God and Religion...

These are two quite disparate things in my view.

There may or may not be a greater being who created everything and anything. (Although I personally don't believe there is such a 'thing').

Religion is entirely man-made.

Still the source of an immense amount of comfort worldwide, and the source of many peoples good behaviour and good will to others. Think the world is dark place now? Imagine it with significantly less "hope"

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Reply # 1199000 17-Dec-2014 12:10

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Conflating militant extremists with all religion is utterly ridiculous.

Grouping all muslims with militant extremists is ridiculous.

Saying we should get rid of religion because of the actions of a militant group is ridiculous in the extreme.

This attack is utterly reprehensible and shows how these extremist groups are encouraging and endorsing medieval beliefs. The murder and torture of innocents should be an artifact of ancient times. It is sad this it is happening today.

It is unfortunate that terrorism and guerilla warfare is how battles are fought in modern times.

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Reply # 1199003 17-Dec-2014 12:17

wasabi2k: Conflating militant extremists with all religion is utterly ridiculous.

Grouping all muslims with militant extremists is ridiculous.

Saying we should get rid of religion because of the actions of a militant group is ridiculous in the extreme.

This attack is utterly reprehensible and shows how these extremist groups are encouraging and endorsing medieval beliefs. The murder and torture of innocents should be an artifact of ancient times. It is sad this it is happening today.

It is unfortunate that terrorism and guerilla warfare is how battles are fought in modern times.

ANY religion can - and without many exceptions has - throw up militant extremists. It's not a Muslim/non Muslim thing, although they probably get the award for 'Most Nutters In A Religion' at the moment.

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Reply # 1199004 17-Dec-2014 12:18

SaltyNZ:
Geektastic: There are some groups of people in the world who, if they were cells in your body, doctors would cut them out and destroy them to preserve the rest of you.

I err towards terminating people like this with extreme prejudice. No trial, no lawyers. Just a quiet bullet in the night.

Kinda like what they did to all those kids, huh?

Nope. The kids were innocent. The perps are not.

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Reply # 1199021 17-Dec-2014 12:33

Geektastic:
SaltyNZ:
Geektastic: There are some groups of people in the world who, if they were cells in your body, doctors would cut them out and destroy them to preserve the rest of you.

I err towards terminating people like this with extreme prejudice. No trial, no lawyers. Just a quiet bullet in the night.

Kinda like what they did to all those kids, huh?

Nope. The kids were innocent. The perps are not.

As soon as you accept the premise of killing people without needing to justify it (no trial), you're on the slippery slope.

If you accept that some particular end exists which will justify killing people, you're not that different from the CIA (and Bush and Cheney, the US Govt, and anyone else in the USA who accepts what they did), nor from the "perps".

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Reply # 1199023 17-Dec-2014 12:35

frankv:
Geektastic:
SaltyNZ:
Geektastic: There are some groups of people in the world who, if they were cells in your body, doctors would cut them out and destroy them to preserve the rest of you.

I err towards terminating people like this with extreme prejudice. No trial, no lawyers. Just a quiet bullet in the night.

Kinda like what they did to all those kids, huh?

Nope. The kids were innocent. The perps are not.

As soon as you accept the premise of killing people without needing to justify it (no trial), you're on the slippery slope.

If you accept that some particular end exists which will justify killing people, you're not that different from the CIA (and Bush and Cheney, the US Govt, and anyone else in the USA who accepts what they did), nor from the "perps".

Yup, it's hard not to agree with both sides of the coin here, but I can imagine the terrible end result from just dealing to people in the dark on the say so of a committee of people :)

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Reply # 1199052 17-Dec-2014 12:54

frankv:
Geektastic:
SaltyNZ:
Geektastic: There are some groups of people in the world who, if they were cells in your body, doctors would cut them out and destroy them to preserve the rest of you.

I err towards terminating people like this with extreme prejudice. No trial, no lawyers. Just a quiet bullet in the night.

Kinda like what they did to all those kids, huh?

Nope. The kids were innocent. The perps are not.

As soon as you accept the premise of killing people without needing to justify it (no trial), you're on the slippery slope.

If you accept that some particular end exists which will justify killing people, you're not that different from the CIA (and Bush and Cheney, the US Govt, and anyone else in the USA who accepts what they did), nor from the "perps".

This is why the perps of this world will always exist. Our morals will never let us drop to their level and that is the only way we will possibly eliminate them. Its a tough choice for sure, hold the moral high ground or make them pay for their crimes with some instance justice.

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