Can i have 2 ISP's at home?

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ReckITT

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#153505 29-Sep-2014 12:57

Hi.

Is it possible to have 2 ISP's on one line here through a PPPoE connection on my PC?

Im new to New Zealand, so internet works a bit different.
He has an 80gb account with Telecom which includes a landline. Am i able to buy an unlimited account at say bigpipe and connect through my pc with that account while he can continue to use his own telecom?

Thanks in Advance.

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#1143514 29-Sep-2014 13:02

You will need a second line installed.

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ReckITT

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#1143520 29-Sep-2014 13:08

How does the clothed option work then if there is an existing phone line in the home?

macuser

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#1143525 29-Sep-2014 13:16

Why don't you just pay the person you live with some money every month and upgrade their spark plan to unlimited data?

ReckITT

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#1143534 29-Sep-2014 13:20

macuser: Why don't you just pay the person you live with some money every month and upgrade your spark plan to unlimited data?

His girlfriend said no. So im looking at other options.

Seems strange that i cannot buy stand alone bandwidth when everything else is paid for.

macuser

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#1143536 29-Sep-2014 13:23

ReckITT:
macuser: Why don't you just pay the person you live with some money every month and upgrade your spark plan to unlimited data?

His girlfriend said no. So im looking at other options.

Seems strange that i cannot buy stand alone bandwidth when everything else is paid for.

Well, they'll save money by having you pay a portion of the bill, and they can always downgrade the account back to 80GB when you leave... so sounds like the girlfriend is silly :)

ReckITT

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#1143537 29-Sep-2014 13:25

i could'nt agree more..haha. but it is how it is.

Back home, i could use any ISP and multiple on 1 line. So each PC in the house could have their preferred Bandwidth.

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#1143538 29-Sep-2014 13:26

ReckITT: How does the clothed option work then if there is an existing phone line in the home?

You can have one POTS service and one XDSL connection per physical copper line. If you want additional telephone lines or xDSL connections, you'll need more sets of pairs from the exchange. :)

If there is an existing phone line in the home, this would need to be reassigned to the provider offering the clothed xDSL connection. In years past it was common to have the POTS line with one provider and ADSL with another - this is less common now.

Depending on where you're located, you may be able to have a second connection on another network that can be run in parallel to the existing copper line, e.g. fibre or cable.

Either way, if you 100% need your own dedicated connection, you will need something else installed.

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hamish225

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#1143540 29-Sep-2014 13:33

ReckITT: i could'nt agree more..haha. but it is how it is.

Back home, i could use any ISP and multiple on 1 line. So each PC in the house could have their preferred Bandwidth.

where are you from originally and what service type was it, out of curiosity?

*Insert big spe*dtest result here*

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#1143544 29-Sep-2014 13:46

hamish225:
ReckITT: i could'nt agree more..haha. but it is how it is.

Back home, i could use any ISP and multiple on 1 line. So each PC in the house could have their preferred Bandwidth.

where are you from originally and what service type was it, out of curiosity?

Im from South Africa. and the way it works there is. You buy a phone line for a number and an ADSL line speed up to 40mb depending on area. And then you buy your ISP bandwidth from any supplier of your choice. So if 3 people in the home wanted to use 3 different bandwidth packages at three different ISP companies we could all use it on the same line. But the line speed installed would be shared with the PCs while using the same line.

So eg. My parents had a capped account of 10gb. And i had my own unlimited which i paid seperatly and did'nt need to pay for a phone or ADSL line, cause my parents were paying for the one installed all ready.

hamish225

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#1143551 29-Sep-2014 13:51

ReckITT:
hamish225:
ReckITT: i could'nt agree more..haha. but it is how it is.

Back home, i could use any ISP and multiple on 1 line. So each PC in the house could have their preferred Bandwidth.

where are you from originally and what service type was it, out of curiosity?

Im from South Africa. and the way it works there is. You buy a phone line for a number and an ADSL line speed up to 40mb depending on area. And then you buy your ISP bandwidth from any supplier of your choice. So if 3 people in the home wanted to use 3 different bandwidth packages at three different ISP companies we could all use it on the same line. But the line speed installed would be shared with the PCs while using the same line.

So eg. My parents had a capped account of 10gb. And i had my own unlimited which i paid seperatly and did'nt need to pay for a phone or ADSL line, cause my parents were paying for the one installed all ready.

interesting, I didn't even know that was possible!

*Insert big spe*dtest result here*

Demeter

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#1143556 29-Sep-2014 13:55

hamish225:
ReckITT:
hamish225:
ReckITT: i could'nt agree more..haha. but it is how it is.

Back home, i could use any ISP and multiple on 1 line. So each PC in the house could have their preferred Bandwidth.

where are you from originally and what service type was it, out of curiosity?

Im from South Africa. and the way it works there is. You buy a phone line for a number and an ADSL line speed up to 40mb depending on area. And then you buy your ISP bandwidth from any supplier of your choice. So if 3 people in the home wanted to use 3 different bandwidth packages at three different ISP companies we could all use it on the same line. But the line speed installed would be shared with the PCs while using the same line.

So eg. My parents had a capped account of 10gb. And i had my own unlimited which i paid seperatly and did'nt need to pay for a phone or ADSL line, cause my parents were paying for the one installed all ready.

interesting, I didn't even know that was possible!

Neither did I, and I am from South Africa too.

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#1143558 29-Sep-2014 13:59

Demeter:
hamish225:
ReckITT:
hamish225:
ReckITT: i could'nt agree more..haha. but it is how it is.

Back home, i could use any ISP and multiple on 1 line. So each PC in the house could have their preferred Bandwidth.

where are you from originally and what service type was it, out of curiosity?

Im from South Africa. and the way it works there is. You buy a phone line for a number and an ADSL line speed up to 40mb depending on area. And then you buy your ISP bandwidth from any supplier of your choice. So if 3 people in the home wanted to use 3 different bandwidth packages at three different ISP companies we could all use it on the same line. But the line speed installed would be shared with the PCs while using the same line.

So eg. My parents had a capped account of 10gb. And i had my own unlimited which i paid seperatly and did'nt need to pay for a phone or ADSL line, cause my parents were paying for the one installed all ready.

interesting, I didn't even know that was possible!

Neither did I, and I am from South Africa too.

Fellow Saffa, and I didn't know this either... Though I left some time back when my father was getting stung for going over his cap ON DIALUP.?? Gonna google this though, sounds a clever way of offloading the Tennent's data use :)

ReckITT

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#1143559 29-Sep-2014 14:02

Yeah i assumed this was possible anywhere in the world..lol. i mean over here you paying twice for the same thing then. Kinda seems unfair.

ReckITT

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#1143560 29-Sep-2014 14:10

I think i can do it? well it sounds like i can...haha.

What's the difference between 'Naked' and 'Clothed' plans?

'Clothed' plans assume that you have an existing POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) line rental at your house, from a Telco provider such as Spark, Telstraclear etc...

These clothed plans are our broadband service running over your existing phone line. They're cheaper because your line provider is already paying the line rental fees to Chorus.

Naked plans are for people who aren't paying a provider for an existing POTS line at their home, in which case we have to pay Chorus for the copper line rental to get your broadband connected (hence the extra cost).

PhantomNVD

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#1143564 29-Sep-2014 14:19

Ummm... No.

I'm not sure what happened in your home, but ADSL in RSA, seems to work the same as here... Reading a few providers information showed that you needed a Telekom line (called Chorus here) and then you pay the ISPS for your speed and data. This is exactly the same here. There is no way for 1 copper pair to connect to two different companies for Internet, (unless they're the same company with different brand offerings?).

In plain English I think you were just paying the price upgrade to get unlimited for your parents line, and that's what you'd have to do here too... Unless you go for the second line install, or have cable/fibre/RBI installed as well.

Good luck convincing the GF, that's your best bet TBH!

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