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# 261632 7-Dec-2019 21:02
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Hi all,

I made a monumentally stupid mistake while doing some renovations and yanked the master telephone jack from its wiring. I have searched and searched and cant find an answer that fits my problem.
I now know (think) that this black cable is coming from my ETP (which I can't find anywhere!). The orange cable is going to a connector of some sort but i have tried all combinations of the yellow, black and white wires on the 2 and 5 slots and im not having any luck!
Can anyone provide a simple solution or will i have to go digging for the ETP? (I've traced the black cable and it os last seen going underground :-( )
Thanks in advance for the help!

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  # 2370151 7-Dec-2019 21:13
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So my image didnt load coz signal here is bad.
Also just had some luck with the black cable in the 2 slot abd yellow in the 5 but dropped out again pretty quick.
I'm judging this off the dsl signal on my router because i have no phone 🤦‍♀️



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  # 2370159 7-Dec-2019 21:23
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Cancel that. Swapped the yellow and black cables around and voila! Musnt have pushed them in far enough the first time! Amateur hour over here!

 
 
 
 


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  # 2370268 8-Dec-2019 03:46
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ShobbysLead: Hi all,

I made a monumentally stupid mistake while doing some renovations and yanked the master telephone jack from its wiring. I have searched and searched and cant find an answer that fits my problem.
I now know (think) that this black cable is coming from my ETP (which I can't find anywhere!). The orange cable is going to a connector of some sort but i have tried all combinations of the yellow, black and white wires on the 2 and 5 slots and im not having any luck!
Can anyone provide a simple solution or will i have to go digging for the ETP? (I've traced the black cable and it os last seen going underground :-( )
Thanks in advance for the help!
The black cable sounds like the lead-in & consists of two pairs: black/red white/blue (is there an additional blue wire maybe broken off?) .

 

If installed according to Chorus guidelines it should terminate at ETP located on side of house closest to road.

 

From ETP it's spliced into premises wiring - generally white or blue depending on age of house (blue=Cat 5/6).

 

 

 

In your case someone likely ran the lead in straight to master jack......

 

 

 

 




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  # 2370364 8-Dec-2019 09:19
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No sign of a blue wire. Yellow, Black, White, Orange. The Orange is in a connector so was never connected to the jack from what I can tell. The connection is still dropping out intermittently. There were 3 other jacks daisy chained off this one but will worry about them once I get this one up and running again. Thanks for your help


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  # 2370369 8-Dec-2019 09:28
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Hi the pairs in that cable are yellow/black and tan/white, currently you have a leg of each pair connected, which will give you no phone and ratsh1t dsl, I recommend using the yellow and black wire using pins 2 and 5

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  # 2370371 8-Dec-2019 09:30
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Thanks Cyril will attempt that when I get home from work.


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  # 2370372 8-Dec-2019 09:34
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If the yellow/black pair fails to work then obviously try the tan/white, but chorus cabling convention has yellow/black as pair one and tan/white is pair two, unless there's a fault with pair one you always use that first.

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  # 2370374 8-Dec-2019 09:36
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I actually have them plugged in that way at the moment and am getting more consistent connection than I have any other way. will probably need to clear out the wires and connect them better.


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  # 2370393 8-Dec-2019 10:22
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You can get cheap insertion tools from Mitre10 and others. Shoving the wires in with a screwdriver can end up spreading the contacts that cut through the insulation and grip the copper. It is always a good idea to take a quick picture of the wiring before disturbing it.

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  # 2370463 8-Dec-2019 12:38
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Bung: You can get cheap insertion tools from Mitre10 and others. Shoving the wires in with a screwdriver can end up spreading the contacts that cut through the insulation and grip the copper. It is always a good idea to take a quick picture of the wiring before disturbing it.

 

https://www.cablemax.co.nz/collections/data-tools/products/ct-pdt

 

 

 

Use this

 

 


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  # 2370540 8-Dec-2019 15:39
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cyril7: If the yellow/black pair fails to work then obviously try the tan/white, but chorus cabling convention has yellow/black as pair one and tan/white is pair two, unless there's a fault with pair one you always use that first.

Cyril

 

With that old stuff there's no telling exactly how it's been wired at the other end, because each tech does it a different way, and each region has it's own correct way. As far as I'm aware there isn't an official way, but the most common one I've come across is what you suggest. If it's working on a "split" pair, odds are good that it's been connected that way at the other end.





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  # 2370542 8-Dec-2019 15:41
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OP could just open the ETP and see what wires are connected to the cable from the street, that would fix it instantly.

 

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  # 2370545 8-Dec-2019 16:07
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cyril7:

 

OP could just open the ETP and see what wires are connected to the cable from the street, that would fix it instantly.

 

Cyril

 

 

house looks Pre 1987 when the black cable was run all the way to the master socket, looks like from the photos however the sockets have been replaced from 3wire to 2wire

 

 


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  # 2370557 8-Dec-2019 17:26
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nztim:

cyril7:


OP could just open the ETP and see what wires are connected to the cable from the street, that would fix it instantly.


Cyril



house looks Pre 1987 when the black cable was run all the way to the master socket, looks like from the photos however the sockets have been replaced from 3wire to 2wire


 


Yeah, I suspect that'll be the case, I'd be surprised if there was an ETP.




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  # 2370561 8-Dec-2019 17:54
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House was built in 1992 but black cable disappears underground. Currently have connection with yello -> 2 and black -> 5. But it has drooped out with these connections also. Will leave it for a bit and have a beer 🤣

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