alliao: I agree that orcon's not being too open about some things.
Such as how does a customer's line gets degraded performance when it's getting cabinetised.
Pre cabinetised line goes from client's premise to an exchange which is far away. After, the line presumably either runs THROUGH telecom's cabinet THEN goes to the old exchange, OR isn't affected and still only goes to the old exchange.
In the first case, a performance degradation is expected, however wouldn't Orcon have the rights to sue telecom for damages in doing so? I don't understand how lines can be so obviously "slowed" with no one being responsible, and thus no repercussion for their action.
My understanding of the reason behind this is that the Telecom Wholesale connections are terminated at the cabinet, while the LLU connections must pass through the cabinet to get terminated at the exchange. Apparently the problem with this is that the signal strength of the cabinetised connections is much stronger than that of the LLU connections as a result, and introduce atrocious amounts of line noise.
Kyanar: My understanding of the reason behind this is that the Telecom Wholesale connections are terminated at the cabinet, while the LLU connections must pass through the cabinet to get terminated at the exchange. Apparently the problem with this is that the signal strength of the cabinetised connections is much stronger than that of the LLU connections as a result, and introduce atrocious amounts of line noise.
Makes you wonder what kind of telecommunication engineering is that, I've heard of repeaters or amps that boosts signal so one can carry signals further. How and WHY would someone designed a box where it'd "introduce" additional signals so much so that it'd disrupt the previous signal is... unheard of.
It almost reminds me of pirate radios like Kiss FM. Whereby one station broadcast lawlessly with their own equipment to the extent that it essentially overcome the legit station by rules of physics....
Same thing last night - occasional periods where international access was awful. This is the worst and lowest level of connectivity I have experienced with Orcon. Things have steadily declined since May 2009.
I sent them a fault email, but given the number of responses on this thread I doubt that anything major ever really happens.
How disappointing - particularly as we're in an area where Telecom have not provided enough ADSL ports, so if we try to switch, we'll be without an internet provider for months.
Sad sad state of affairs.
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alliao: I agree that orcon's not being too open about some things.
Such as how does a customer's line gets degraded performance when it's getting cabinetised.
Pre cabinetised line goes from client's premise to an exchange which is far away. After, the line presumably either runs THROUGH telecom's cabinet THEN goes to the old exchange, OR isn't affected and still only goes to the old exchange.
In the first case, a performance degradation is expected, however wouldn't Orcon have the rights to sue telecom for damages in doing so? I don't understand how lines can be so obviously "slowed" with no one being responsible, and thus no repercussion for their action.
My understanding of the reason behind this is that the Telecom Wholesale connections are terminated at the cabinet, while the LLU connections must pass through the cabinet to get terminated at the exchange. Apparently the problem with this is that the signal strength of the cabinetised connections is much stronger than that of the LLU connections as a result, and introduce atrocious amounts of line noise.
Or in my case, cabinetised last week - getting fantastic synch speeds and yet speedtest speeds are still around same level as before the upgrade.
Post Cabinet: --- System Information --- Vendor: Linksys ModelName: WAG325N Firmware Version: A1.00.11 , 2007-08-15 Boot Version: 1.0.37-5.4 Hardware Version: 0.01
I'm on orcon+ and my area got a cabinet on the 30th of july...speeds dropped from 5mbps to under 2 and i'm still trying to get them to sort it out and move me to a wholesale plan. Slow progress, so i wouldn't hold your breath at getting better speeds.
0o0: I'm on orcon+ and my area got a cabinet on the 30th of july...speeds dropped from 5mbps to under 2 and i'm still trying to get them to sort it out and move me to a wholesale plan. Slow progress, so i wouldn't hold your breath at getting better speeds.
Wouldn't it just be easier to switch to Telecom and get excellent speeds? OR doesn't it work like that? I haven't really looked at how the cabinets work tbh.
Yeah it probably would be, but moving to a wholesale orcon plan should technically give the same improved speeds. It seems like it'll take another week or two to get transferred at this rate i thought it would be rather simple but apparently not :P Also telecom doesn't really have a plan for our high usage.
My area is getting a cabinet in a couple of weeks. Will that help my speed?
Or should I switch to telecom since it is their equipment?
Just wait it out and see what happens after the cabinetisation. My speeds more than doubled when I was cabinetised, so it could be worth waiting for. Afterall, you aren't bound to a contract with Orcon, but you would be with Telecom, so it's best to see what the results are before considering the switch to another ISP.
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