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#191372 2-Feb-2016 14:56
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Hi,

 

I just switched to Flip and discovered that my outgoing web traffic (http requests) now arrive at the remote server with multiple different IPv4 addresses.

 

This causes me to be logged out of my web hosting server cPanel backend - presumably because the random IPs that arrive at the server have not been authenticated on that IP.

 

Also Notepad++ FTP errored out why trying to save a file back to my same web hosting presumably for the same reason.

 

I don't care so much about not being able to access inward to my home office from the internet because of (CG)NAT but having my outgoing traffic spread across several outgoing IPs is messing things up!

 

Is this normal? Should I tell my hosting provider to get with the CGNAT program? Or is they some way to limit my outgoing IP address to only 1 at a time?

 

 

 

Regards,

 

D


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  #1483598 2-Feb-2016 14:58
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Tell your hosting provider to stop being idiots. This would also break most people being able to use it on mobile data or any business with a load balanced network.





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  #1483600 2-Feb-2016 15:00

 Your outgoing IP will only change IF the TCP session is closed or left idle for an extended period.


 
 
 
 




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  #1483629 2-Feb-2016 15:07
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richms:

 

Tell your hosting provider to stop being idiots. This would also break most people being able to use it on mobile data or any business with a load balanced network.

 

 

Ok thanks I'll quote you on that :)

 

I'm not sure if that will fix the NPPFTP problem since FTP does use cookies to track authentication...?




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  #1483630 2-Feb-2016 15:09
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noroad:

 

 Your outgoing IP will only change IF the TCP session is closed or left idle for an extended period.

 

 

Hi - no that's not the case. In a single page load from me on my website I am seeing up to 3 different client IPs being used.

 

 


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  #1483637 2-Feb-2016 15:24
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passive mode FTP should work fine. Active mode will never work properly behind nat without silly kludges in the nat devices.

 

Besides, you shouldn't be using insecure FTP over the internet. SCP ideally.





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  #1483639 2-Feb-2016 15:28

deepsix:

 

noroad:

 

 Your outgoing IP will only change IF the TCP session is closed or left idle for an extended period.

 

 

Hi - no that's not the case. In a single page load from me on my website I am seeing up to 3 different client IPs being used.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is it three different destination IP's ? I do recall someone talking about an issue with CPannel a year or two ago.




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  #1483649 2-Feb-2016 15:34
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richms:

 

passive mode FTP should work fine. Active mode will never work properly behind nat without silly kludges in the nat devices.

 

Besides, you shouldn't be using insecure FTP over the internet. SCP ideally.

 

 

Thanks - Filezilla seemed to work but not NPPFTP. Yes I know. I tried SCP some time ago but it failed to connect. Maybe I need to get them to fix that too !!!


 
 
 
 




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  #1483655 2-Feb-2016 15:39
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noroad:

 

deepsix:

 

noroad:

 

 Your outgoing IP will only change IF the TCP session is closed or left idle for an extended period.

 

 

Hi - no that's not the case. In a single page load from me on my website I am seeing up to 3 different client IPs being used.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is it three different destination IP's ? I do recall someone talking about an issue with CPannel a year or two ago.

 

 

Just to clarify - I'm at home using say Chrome and going to a page on my website http://www.example.co.nz/ . It loads OK, HTML, CSS, Images. Then I look in the apache access log of the www.example.co.nz and there's a bunch of hits from me from various different IP addresses (admittedly from a small subset of IPs nnn.nnn.nnn.[0-9] ).

 

 


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  #1483659 2-Feb-2016 15:44
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deepsix:

 

noroad:

 

 Your outgoing IP will only change IF the TCP session is closed or left idle for an extended period.

 

 

Hi - no that's not the case. In a single page load from me on my website I am seeing up to 3 different client IPs being used.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had a similar problem with flip and they don't have static ip's.  I had to leave them in the end.

 

 

 

 




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  #1483685 2-Feb-2016 16:02
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jmh:

 

deepsix:

 

noroad:

 

 Your outgoing IP will only change IF the TCP session is closed or left idle for an extended period.

 

 

Hi - no that's not the case. In a single page load from me on my website I am seeing up to 3 different client IPs being used.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had a similar problem with flip and they don't have static ip's.  I had to leave them in the end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any recommendations? I don't want a contract or early exit fees :(


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  #1483699 2-Feb-2016 16:20
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Big pipe and pay them $45 or whatever for a static IP.

 

Or find a VPN provider you can use that has a consistant IP address.





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  #1485689 5-Feb-2016 10:14
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deepsix:

 

jmh:

 

deepsix:

 

noroad:

 

 Your outgoing IP will only change IF the TCP session is closed or left idle for an extended period.

 

 

Hi - no that's not the case. In a single page load from me on my website I am seeing up to 3 different client IPs being used.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had a similar problem with flip and they don't have static ip's.  I had to leave them in the end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any recommendations? I don't want a contract or early exit fees :(

 

 

 

 

I went to My Republic but it comes with exit fees, so probably not for you -  I was looking for unlimited fibre, which may not be your requirement.  I would find a provider that offers a static ip - MR did it for a reasonable one-off fee, but there are others out there. 


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  #1500774 28-Feb-2016 14:47
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Spreading http traffic or any traffic for that matter across multiple public ip's *will* create adverse effects on many servers.  PHP sessions for example (depending on configuration) are sometimes dropped and regenerated as a security measure if an ip change is detected, hence forcing the user to login again or start over again with whatever they were doing on given website.

 

 

 

Edit: Though I would also mention, we've got a customer with flip who logs into one of our servers over http and i've noticed in the logs the ip is changing every couple minutes almost. Jumping around between 163.47.107.1 - 163.47.107.9


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  #1500777 28-Feb-2016 14:59
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It just sounds like your ISP is not suited for your needs...

 

BigPipe + the $49 static IP sounds like it'll suit you better and it is the same price assuming you're on ADSL. If you sign up using this link you'll give both you and I a $20 credit. Well worth it.





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