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  #1397271 30-Sep-2015 12:09
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Does anyone remember the launch price of the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 in New Zealand?
I brought my N4 a few months before the N5 was released and it was on special at $499

While missing some features that others may be interested in, I am still tempted to get the 5X



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  #1397274 30-Sep-2015 12:20
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Well if all that means there is only going to be one model of each phone for the world, then my original plan of dropping hints to my daughter who lives and works in the US, of getting me one for my birthday is still viable :-) That means I am immune to the currency exchange drop since I'm not paying and won't have to worry about network compatibility for the 5X since I'm on Skinny.

I guess I have to see if I can live without wireless charging.  The 6P looks like a really nice phone.






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  #1397277 30-Sep-2015 12:25
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muppet:

Fantastic, thanks so much for the detailed explanation.
I, like I suspect many people, assume that Band 28 is a fixed thing, you either support it or you don't.

Very interesting to learn that Band 28 support can come with little asterisk next to it.

Thanks for the taking the time to explain.


No problem. Was new to me when the 830 launched.

It's a mushy explanation, the specifics get more complicated, I am not an engineer.

This graph (From here) depicts it better:





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  #1397278 30-Sep-2015 12:25
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I don't think there is only 1 model of the 5x
There is a US model (with cdma chip for some of their telcos over there) and a "world" model for everywhere else

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  #1397281 30-Sep-2015 12:29
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Found this
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 29(700) - American model  
LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 8(900), 26(850), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Asian model  
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 9(1800), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Global model

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  #1397294 30-Sep-2015 12:38
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mrtoken: Found this
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 29(700) - American model  
LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 8(900), 26(850), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Asian model  
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 9(1800), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Global model

So I presume that means the global model will work fully on all NZ cell networks?

 
 
 

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  #1397295 30-Sep-2015 12:39
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k14:
mrtoken: Found this
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 29(700) - American model  
LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 8(900), 26(850), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Asian model  
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 9(1800), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Global model

So I presume that means the global model will work fully on all NZ cell networks?


Not on band 28 for vodafone as what johnr said earlier (don't know about 2degrees).
But band 3 is fine for the 3 telco's with networks here


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  #1397300 30-Sep-2015 12:46
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mrtoken:
Not on band 28 for vodafone as what johnr said earlier (don't know about 2degrees).
But band 3 is fine for the 3 telco's with networks here


So, just to get this straight. The global model will work on all networks bar LTE off Vodafone? HSPDA and HSPDA+ will still work ok?

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  #1397303 30-Sep-2015 12:53
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mrtoken:
k14:
mrtoken: Found this
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 29(700) - American model  
LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 8(900), 26(850), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Asian model  
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 9(1800), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Global model

So I presume that means the global model will work fully on all NZ cell networks?


Not on band 28 for vodafone as what johnr said earlier (don't know about 2degrees).
But band 3 is fine for the 3 telco's with networks here



Apparently it will work on 2degrees since they support LTE Band 3 (1800), I had a chat with a lovely fellow called Scott on their chat page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2degrees

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  #1397304 30-Sep-2015 12:53
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k14:
mrtoken:
Not on band 28 for vodafone as what johnr said earlier (don't know about 2degrees).
But band 3 is fine for the 3 telco's with networks here


So, just to get this straight. The global model will work on all networks bar LTE off Vodafone? HSPDA and HSPDA+ will still work ok?


Bar the 700Mhz (Band 28) for Vodafone.  The other 2 LTE bands appear to be fully supported (at least NikT hasn't suggested otherwise)



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  #1397305 30-Sep-2015 12:54
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muppet:
k14:
mrtoken:
Not on band 28 for vodafone as what johnr said earlier (don't know about 2degrees).
But band 3 is fine for the 3 telco's with networks here


So, just to get this straight. The global model will work on all networks bar LTE off Vodafone? HSPDA and HSPDA+ will still work ok?


Bar the 700Mhz (Band 28) for Vodafone.  The other 2 LTE bands appear to be fully supported (at least NikT hasn't suggested otherwise)




Same for the 6P, or does it support band 28?

 
 
 
 

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  #1397307 30-Sep-2015 12:58
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Correct, the 5X will work fine on 4G bands 3 & 7.

Note that the band 28 split means no-go for 2degrees on that band either. Spark holds 20MHz paired of band 28, Vodafone 15MHz, 2degrees 10MHz.

I have no reason to believe the information Google provided at the time has changed as they naturally pitched the global SKU rather than the US SKU for 5X.




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  #1397308 30-Sep-2015 12:58
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dafman:
muppet:
k14:
mrtoken:
Not on band 28 for vodafone as what johnr said earlier (don't know about 2degrees).
But band 3 is fine for the 3 telco's with networks here


So, just to get this straight. The global model will work on all networks bar LTE off Vodafone? HSPDA and HSPDA+ will still work ok?


Bar the 700Mhz (Band 28) for Vodafone.  The other 2 LTE bands appear to be fully supported (at least NikT hasn't suggested otherwise)




Same for the 6P, or does it support band 28?

READ THIS THREAD! :)

From what NikT said:
The 6P fully supports Band28.
The 5X half supports (Not VFNZ's LTE700 allocation) Band 28.

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  #1397311 30-Sep-2015 13:03
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From the RSM site



Looking at that, if the N5X only support from 703-723 lower band of the spectrum, then it won't work on Band 28 for Vodafone which goes from 723-738.

Which is what NikT said.

What isn't clear to me is, what happens if the N5X is on Vodafone and in a Band 28 area. No LTE or partial coverage?






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  #1397312 30-Sep-2015 13:04
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Why does it have to be so confusing haha!!

So how do you know if your normal cell sites run on band 3/7 or 28?? I'm on 2degrees btw.

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