Google reportedly suspends Huawei's Android support after US Ban

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roderickh

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#250635 20-May-2019 07:51

Guys,

Spotted on a few news articles this morning that Google has suspended some business with Huawei which includes Android OS upgrades and Google Play Services with their future devices - what's your take on this considering NZ is pushing Huawei advertising heavily on just about every media source?

Is the recently released P30 now not worth buying anymore? If this is to be permanent then it might be the start of a 3rd major OS.

Can the NZ Telco GZ users chip in on this?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-tech-alphabet-exclusive/exclusive-google-suspends-some-business-with-huawei-after-trump-blacklist-source-idUSKCN1SP0NB

https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/bqjup4/exclusive_google_suspends_some_business_with/

https://www.engadget.com/2019/05/19/google-pulls-android-support-from-huawei/

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#2241120 20-May-2019 07:54

Well this is going to be fun, Staff just got some p30's and I'm wondering what the return possibilities are if they loose the store and google apps usage

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nunasdream

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#2241124 20-May-2019 08:04

I am going to return mine if this is true. No software updates, especially security ones is a nope.

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#2241127 20-May-2019 08:07

This is not good news I would be returning my handset ASAP if this was the case!

roderickh

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#2241132 20-May-2019 08:22

There must be a clause in the CGA somewhere that covers the NZ userbase...

I think it is a case of wait and see at this stage, to see if any further development occurs. Really sad actually on how this can occur, reduces my overall confidence in Android.

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#2241136 20-May-2019 08:36

So what does this mean for older devices? I've had the P20 Pro for just over a year so, after reading the articles, I'm assuming I still have access to Google Play store and Google Apps suite, but lose any future OS updates. If that's the case, does that give me a case to return the devices siting lack of software/security updates being in breach of consumer laws in NZ?

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#2241140 20-May-2019 08:55

roderickh:

Is the recently released P30 now not worth buying anymore? If this is to be permanent then it might be the start of a 3rd major OS.

Windows Phone revival!

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#2241149 20-May-2019 09:09

So the US Government forces Google (ie controls them) to suspend Huawei because it is controlled by the Chinese Government? I’m trying to work out if that is ironic, or not.....

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#2241152 20-May-2019 09:16

Dingbatt: So the US Government forces Google (ie controls them) to suspend Huawei because it is controlled by the Chinese Government? I’m trying to work out if that is ironic, or not.....

Maybe Trump can get some conviction (pun there!) and target Huawei properly if its that much of an issue, I heard from someone that there are a few modems out there too ..... :-)

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#2241156 20-May-2019 09:21

"Reuters is reporting the news from a single anonymous source"

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/19/18631558/google-huawei-android-suspension

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#2241163 20-May-2019 09:23

Great news! Hopefully this leads to telcos worldwide dropping Huawei handsets.

Apparently they lock the boot loader too so you can't even flash them with vanilla Android, is that correct?

(I'm not an Android user so forgive me if the terminology is incorrect).

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#2241165 20-May-2019 09:25

Why? There isn't anything wrong with their handsets and the camera is top of the line

nunasdream

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#2241170 20-May-2019 09:30

Benjip:
Great news! Hopefully this leads to telcos worldwide dropping Huawei handsets.

Apparently they lock the boot loader too so you can't even flash them with vanilla Android, is that correct?

(I'm not an Android user so forgive me if the terminology is incorrect).

End users barely care about this stuff. They care about battery life and cameras. Huawei excels at both.

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#2241172 20-May-2019 09:33

Benjip:
Great news! Hopefully this leads to telcos worldwide dropping Huawei handsets.

Apparently they lock the boot loader too so you can't even flash them with vanilla Android, is that correct?

(I'm not an Android user so forgive me if the terminology is incorrect).

Aren’t the bootloaders on most android phones locked, unless you root them?

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#2241175 20-May-2019 09:39

Wow I feel sorry for Google they have been Right Royally Stuffed by this and it wont help any world wide security concerns in the medium to long term. The likes of Samsung and the Chinese companies (Huawei etc.) have been working on alternatives to Android for years specifically for this reason and not been owned by Google with the likes of Tizen and I'm sure the Chinese companies will have a work around.

Bottom line is the Google Play Store, and is there a way to install apps to alternative OS's even Google has been working on this with Fuchsia.

If China do the same re Chinese components in American phones (Apple, Google ...), The European Union wont like been forced by the US either, these supposed concerns will need a proper airing so we can see if they are true or smoke and mirrors either way we are in for an eventful few months.

BBC Click had a very good articles on Huawei and 5G on YouTube that's well worth a watch.

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#2241176 20-May-2019 09:41

From Reuters:

"Huawei will continue to have access to the version of the Android operating system available through the open source license, known as Android Open Source Project (AOSP), that is available for free to anyone who wishes to use it."

"Popular Google apps such as Gmail, YouTube and the Chrome browser that are available through Google’s Play Store will disappear from future Huawei handsets as those services are not covered by the open source license and require a commercial agreement with Google."

"But users of existing Huawei devices who have access to the Google Play Store will still be able to download app updates provided by Google. Apps such as Gmail are updated through the store, unlike operating system updates which are typically handled by phone manufacturers and telecoms carriers, which the blacklist could affect, the source said."

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