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  #2305913 26-Aug-2019 09:17
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Tech skills are easy to learn, especially for the current school generation.  I'd be more supportive of kids learning how to be functional members of society with resilience and analytical skills.  It's easier to hire someone who is well rounded but has the capacity to learn, than someone who is highly skilled in one area but lacking in every other facet of life.  




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  #2305918 26-Aug-2019 09:29
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gehenna:

 

Tech skills are easy to learn.  I'd be more supportive of kids learning how to be functional members of society with resilience and analytical skills.  It's easier to hire someone who is well rounded but has the capacity to learn, than someone who is highly skilled in one area but lacking in every other facet of life.  

 

 

The other side to that is if a kid has an interest in something specific - but that's not supported by the system - they'll  lose interest in learning. 

 

Unfortunately, offering "extension" still seems to be something either left entirely to parents, or limited to more academically gifted kids.


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  #2305922 26-Aug-2019 09:35
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Depends on the school and their capacity/capability in the area the kid is interested.  I don't have kids so I can't really comment on that side, but my wife is a tech savvy teacher so I see a few of the machinations from her side of things.  




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  #2305925 26-Aug-2019 09:36
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One thing my 11-year-old learned to do this year at intermediate on his Chromebook is check out p0rn.

 

This was on his school account but on the home wifi (well, his grandparents' wifi).

 

Like many have posted above, his Chromebook has two Google accounts on it - school and personal; his personal account is connected to Google Link that provides content filtering, whereas the school account appears to be fully open outside of the school network. We've since stopped his school account from accessing home wifi unless we expressly permit it (at home, this is on a specific SSID).

 

Just raise this as something to be mindful of; I guess it'll depend on how the school sets up their account, plus where you do your own filtering (if at all); we do ours at the device level, as we've not found a way around using both Getflix (a DNS service) and a filtering service at the router level.


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  #2305958 26-Aug-2019 10:10
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gehenna:

 

Depends on the school and their capacity/capability in the area the kid is interested.  I don't have kids so I can't really comment on that side, but my wife is a tech savvy teacher so I see a few of the machinations from her side of things.  

 

 

My parents were both teachers.  What I'd say is that despite an expressed philosophy in favour of egalitarianism and equality of opportunity, as soon as a "gifted" student appeared in one of my father's classes, they got an overwhelmingly larger slice of the pie.  Not just time and effort, but encouragement reinforcing self-belief in their abilities to become creme de la creme.  Dumb kids like me got ignored, except when boredom and frustration got the better of us and we collectively focussed on creating havoc.

 

 


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  #2305974 26-Aug-2019 10:47
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Every child is gifted these days, at least according to their parents.


 
 
 

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  #2306077 26-Aug-2019 11:35
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jonathan18:

One thing my 11-year-old learned to do this year at intermediate on his Chromebook is check out p0rn.


This was on his school account but on the home wifi (well, his grandparents' wifi).


Like many have posted above, his Chromebook has two Google accounts on it - school and personal; his personal account is connected to Google Link that provides content filtering, whereas the school account appears to be fully open outside of the school network. We've since stopped his school account from accessing home wifi unless we expressly permit it (at home, this is on a specific SSID).


Just raise this as something to be mindful of; I guess it'll depend on how the school sets up their account, plus where you do your own filtering (if at all); we do ours at the device level, as we've not found a way around using both Getflix (a DNS service) and a filtering service at the router level.



At network level it’s possible to combine dns4me and a filtering service (in my case Cisco Family Shield), I’ve been doing this for years. Thanks for letting me know the potential vulnerability of a school account on a non-school network. Something to be wary of.

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