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#2932270 20-Jun-2022 16:12

Bananabob:

Thanks - I hoping not to use contact adhesive so that I might be able to move the plastic around to get it in the right spot.

”Ados Multi Purpose Aerosol Spray Adhesive is a pressure sensitive one-way adhesive that remains repositionable for 1-2 minutes eliminating costly errors with expensive materials. Once positioned, the adhesive will bond within 10-20 minutes. Full cure will take 24 hours.”

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#2932271 20-Jun-2022 16:19

eracode:

Bananabob:

Thanks - I hoping not to use contact adhesive so that I might be able to move the plastic around to get it in the right spot.

”Ados Multi Purpose Aerosol Spray Adhesive is a pressure sensitive one-way adhesive that remains repositionable for 1-2 minutes eliminating costly errors with expensive materials. Once positioned, the adhesive will bond within 10-20 minutes. Full cure will take 24 hours.”

Sounds just like the right thing. Thanks!

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#2932341 20-Jun-2022 23:21

mdf:
You will probably need to take it off. This will give you a chance to look at the back of the veneer and try and figure out what it is - this will affect what glues you can use and/or do a hidden test spot. Contact adhesive will pretty much stick anything, but other glues will react differently to different plastics. You might be able to use Aquadhere Durabond, but note it only does _most_ plastics with some exceptions.

In particular PE and PP are essentially ungluable, but this will probably be (complete guesswork) some thermoset melamine or similar so you should be OK, there are even PVA variants that will glue that.

Given that the substrate is MDF, should he put on a sealer coat or two before reapplying the plastic?

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#2932347 21-Jun-2022 00:03

"What Are Thermo Formed Doors ?
Thermo Formed Doors, sometimes known as Vinyl Wrap Doors is a process where a plastic sheet (film) is heated to a pliable forming temperature, then formed to a substrate moulded to the shape of your choice."

The plastic is applied in a vacuum press. If it has come loose it may be stretched and never fit quite the same. There are quite a few YT videos showing the process. I was amused that in one the mdf door was dusted with ostrich feathers before the plastic was applied.

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#2932412 21-Jun-2022 10:31

You know the answers to my question have become very interesting. I never realised how complicated the making of "furniture" could be. Thank you all for your responses. I presume this is just another instance of built in obsolescence.

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#2932487 21-Jun-2022 13:28

I've 'repaired' a couple of those door coverings (daughter's laundry) simply using double-sided tape .... put strips down each side and across bottom, pushed back on.

PS I put the tape on the timber because the plastic cover didn't fit tight at the sides .... probably why it came loose. If I recall, I had some Scotch brand outside-rated tape in a drawer and worked fine.

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#2932491 21-Jun-2022 13:50

Bananabob:

The plastic covering of a cupboard door in our bathroom has started to come loose.

Is there someone who can tell me what would be the correct adhesive to use to get it back in place.

Should I remove the door to do do the fix?

Any general advice on this fix, my DIY skills are minimal.

Here is an image.

This is just start, you will have similar effect for other cabinet doors/walls very soon. DO NOT put any adhisive or glue to it as it will not work as you can not apply the clamp properly, and the plastic layer is very fragile.

And it's very hard to sand off the glue especially when you want to paint it in the future instead. It seems paint is the relative cheapest option for DIY, other way may cost much more.

Interested in how you going to do with it and would like to know the results as well. thanks.

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#2932607 21-Jun-2022 16:14

YJ:

1: This is just start, you will have similar effect for other cabinet doors/walls very soon. DO NOT put any adhisive or glue to it as it will not work as you can not apply the clamp properly, and the plastic layer is very fragile.

2: And it's very hard to sand off the glue especially when you want to paint it in the future instead. It seems paint is the relative cheapest option for DIY, other way may cost much more.

1: What is your evidence for saying adhesive will not work? I think that’s rubbish and contact adhesive will work very well. This is exactly the type of job that contact adhesive is designed for. And how do you know the OP can’t clamp it properly? If he has some clamps, this can be done quite easily. Even if he doesn’t have clamps, as mentioned by several people above, he can apply weights across the surface to keep the materials together while the adhesive dries. All this is a standard approach for a job like this.

2: The OP has not asked for the cheapest solution - he has asked for the correct and effective solution. Painting the mdf is not a solution. Anyway, at around $10 for adhesive, adhesive would be cheaper and easier than painting.

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#2933725 24-Jun-2022 09:04

I'd like to know the outcome, whatever you decide to do. :)

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