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timmmay

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#189298 23-Dec-2015 07:19
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I'm looking for a digital timer for my hot water (3000W / 13A element), as with Flick power is cheaper overnight. I already have a Theben TR 608 Top2 for my underfloor heating timer (data sheet here), from memory it was around $100. Apparently saving a guy $5 per week / $250 / year.

I've seen a reference to someone using something like this, which is $30. Any reason not to use one of those?

Obviously I'm going to check with my regular electrician (my neighbor) before I buy anything, interested in thoughts first, especially from people who are qualified in this area.

Notes: new cylinder, with a cylinder wrap (probably unnecessary, had it for the old one), well insulated older house, two people living here, with the water heater turned off the hot water would last us around 36 hours regular use.

 

 

 

Update: you can see my estimated savings from this on this post.

 

UPDATE: according to the Ministry of Health residential hot water must be kept at 60 degrees or above at all times to prevent the growth of Legionella Bacteria. This bacteria can prove fatal. My current thought is heating water only at night could increase the changes of catching the bacteria. Instead I may look at turning off the hot water cylinder during periods of typical high load (7-9am and 5-8pm), but will likely leave it on other times. That's a shame, as I think it was contributing to decent power and money savings.


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  #1456381 24-Dec-2015 07:01
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Yep I know. Standards are here. Once a day or once a week, depending on how/where you measure the temperature. Remember this will be heated to 60 degrees for 5 hours a day, probably from 2am to 7am, so the risk is zero.

3.5 Protection from Legionella bacteria
3.5.1 To prevent the growth of Legionella bacteria, solar water heaters must either: a) have a continuously energised heating element fitted within 55% of the bottom of the water tank (by volume) and a thermostat set to 60°C or higher, or b) be controlled so that the water above the element is heated to 60°C once a day, and the element is in the bottom 20% of the water tank (by volume) and no more than 150 mm from the bottom of the tank, or c) be controlled so that all of the stored water is heated to 60°C or higher, once a week for not less than 1 hour. The temperature must be measured by a probe in the bottom 20% of the water tank (by volume) and no more than 150 mm from the bottom of the water tank. For open loop systems the stored water includes the water in the solar collector and water must be circulated through the collector during the heating period.
3.5.2 Where the solar water heater stores potable water and is used as a pre-heater for an instantaneous water heater, either: a) the hot water storage tank connected to the solar collector must be fitted with supplementary heating and a controller operating to meet the conditions outlined in Paragraph 3.5.1, or b) the instantaneous water heater must heat all water passing through it to not less than 70°C.

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