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#2600009 8-Nov-2020 17:01

we're going to have some serious problems in the USA, livestream anything anywhere and people are gathering en masse in celebration (or protest)

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#2600010 8-Nov-2020 17:02

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US +132,540 cases yesterday on Worldometers; yet another record

The elections are like pouring accelerant to the contagion

i'm wrong it wasn't the socially distanced elections. it's the post election gatherings!

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#2600059 8-Nov-2020 18:46

wellygary:

KrazyKid: The way I read the article the defense force worker was a close contact of the nurse who was infected at jet park.

It's concerning that hotels keep thinking up cases in the staff.
Would hope they continue to improve processes.

They are now saying that the original "community case" at the Jet Park was not a nurse, but a Defence worker

"Neither of these cases are health workers. Both are Defence Force employees"

https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/6-new-cases-covid-19-6

Looks like they also visited restaurants in Wellington and Auckland. We have been lucky so far that these leaks haven't caused outbreaks, but our luck may run out due to use being vulnerable in level 1 and people not contact tracing and wearing masks. I went to some open homes, and noone was scanning in, and I didn't even have my name recorded by the agent as he was too busy with buyers.

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#2600088 8-Nov-2020 20:00

mattwnz:

Very few countries have contact tracing up to the standard needed though and the WHO know this. Even NZs one relies on people to scan and record their route, and many aren't because there is no legal requirement to. Then the MOH complains because hardly anyone scanned into a bar, but they already knew this before.

Its difficult to force people to use the app when to all intents and purposes, there is no Covid in the community. If there was and on a continual basis 99% would comply.

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#2600089 8-Nov-2020 20:02

mattwnz:

Looks like they also visited restaurants in Wellington and Auckland. We have been lucky so far that these leaks haven't caused outbreaks, but our luck may run out due to use being vulnerable in level 1 and people not contact tracing and wearing masks. I went to some open homes, and noone was scanning in, and I didn't even have my name recorded by the agent as he was too busy with buyers.

Thats poor. Perhaps we could for to Level 3 to get compliance?

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#2600118 8-Nov-2020 21:00

Oh dear - Wife and I are isolating Tomorrow - An employee at one of my clients was on the ANZ flight from Auckland to Wellington Thursday with that person who tested positive and went to work Friday. I visited that site on that Friday.

Isolating until she gets negative results

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#2600189 8-Nov-2020 23:32

nztim: Oh dear - Wife and I are isolating Tomorrow - An employee at one of my clients was on the ANZ flight from Auckland to Wellington Thursday with that person who tested positive and went to work Friday. I visited that site on that Friday.

Isolating until she gets negative results

I was wondering about people in this situation. I wonder how may people affected won't isolate because they can't afford to not work. Or are they offering wage subsidies to those people that need to isolate. I think they need to because otherwise some people may not do the right thing.

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#2600232 8-Nov-2020 23:44

Queen Elizabeth seen in face mask for first time during public ceremony

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/07/uk/queen-elizabeth-mask-public-gbr-intl/index.html

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#2600246 9-Nov-2020 06:46

Imagine sneaking out for a long-lunch on a Friday and getting it splashed all over the news. Yikes.

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#2600260 9-Nov-2020 07:51

tdgeek:

mattwnz:

Very few countries have contact tracing up to the standard needed though and the WHO know this. Even NZs one relies on people to scan and record their route, and many aren't because there is no legal requirement to. Then the MOH complains because hardly anyone scanned into a bar, but they already knew this before.

Its difficult to force people to use the app when to all intents and purposes, there is no Covid in the community. If there was and on a continual basis 99% would comply.

And that's the problem with trusting people to do the right thing... I keep scanning.

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#2600262 9-Nov-2020 07:54

I didn't sign into work this morning - didn't even think about it. I'm usually pretty good.

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#2600297 9-Nov-2020 09:12

mattwnz:

nztim: Oh dear - Wife and I are isolating Tomorrow - An employee at one of my clients was on the ANZ flight from Auckland to Wellington Thursday with that person who tested positive and went to work Friday. I visited that site on that Friday.

Isolating until she gets negative results

I was wondering about people in this situation. I wonder how may people affected won't isolate because they can't afford to not work. Or are they offering wage subsidies to those people that need to isolate. I think they need to because otherwise some people may not do the right thing.

We can both WFH so that is not a problem for us, I understand others tho this may be rough

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#2600319 9-Nov-2020 09:36

I've learnt not to be as worried as I used to be when the news of another failure is reported; though this one has the potential to affect quite a few considering there was a plane involved.

Gov't needs to mandate masks to be compulsory on all forms of mass transportation even during Level 1

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#2600344 9-Nov-2020 09:54

tdgeek:

Its difficult to force people to use the app .....

.....when for so many it just doesnt work. I know of people who could not get it to work on their phones , and others that refuse to install .
Many just arnt tech savvy and if it they cant get it to work they give up . Many have phones deemed too old for the app.

Most simply dont care and dont use it (from what Ive seen).
If people dont use it , whatever the reason, its a failure .

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#2600357 9-Nov-2020 10:26

nzkiwiman:

I've learnt not to be as worried as I used to be when the news of another failure is reported; though this one has the potential to affect quite a few considering there was a plane involved.

Gov't needs to mandate masks to be compulsory on all forms of mass transportation even during Level 1

From what we know the flight is probably not a huge risk ...

Infection on Wednesday, flight on Thursday... It usually takes 2+ days to become infectious.... the contacts on the Friday would be more of a worry....

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