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#2640640 23-Jan-2021 15:59

kingdragonfly: Montreal CTVNews: Quebec couple hit with curfew-violation fine after wife walks husband on a leash

A Canadian husband and wife were handed sizeable fines for violating curfew, despite the wife's protests that she was walking her dog and the fact the husband was wearing a leash.

The woman and her husband were each given $1,500 fines by Canadian police for violating curfew. The pair was caught walking at 9 p.m. on Saturday evening.

When questioned by police, the couple said they were happy to receive the ticket and claimed they were following the rules set forth...

Quebec officials have said people may walk their dogs after the 8 p.m. curfew...

Over the first weekend under curfew, police officers across Quebec handed out 750 tickets worth thousands of dollars in fines to people caught out after 8 p.m.

Can't be real surely!

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#2640642 23-Jan-2021 16:08

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kingdragonfly: Montreal CTVNews: Quebec couple hit with curfew-violation fine after wife walks husband on a leash

A Canadian husband and wife were handed sizeable fines for violating curfew, despite the wife's protests that she was walking her dog and the fact the husband was wearing a leash.

The woman and her husband were each given $1,500 fines by Canadian police for violating curfew. The pair was caught walking at 9 p.m. on Saturday evening.

When questioned by police, the couple said they were happy to receive the ticket and claimed they were following the rules set forth...

Quebec officials have said people may walk their dogs after the 8 p.m. curfew...

Over the first weekend under curfew, police officers across Quebec handed out 750 tickets worth thousands of dollars in fines to people caught out after 8 p.m.

Can't be real surely!

Plenty of blokes out there like this. You just don't see it so much in broad daylight !

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#2640645 23-Jan-2021 16:18

Batman:

Can't be real surely!

You clearly do not stray from the sheltered side of the internet.

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#2640654 23-Jan-2021 16:51

richms:
Batman:

Can't be real surely!

You clearly do not stray from the sheltered side of the internet.

Clearly!

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#2640689 23-Jan-2021 19:56

Hong Kong lockdown.

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#2640849 24-Jan-2021 10:44

This story starts sad and goes down to just crazy talk at the end. "Mourn Gary Matthews and recognise that Covid conspiracies endanger life" - just a snip below:

Parker said that Matthews was a co-founder of his “Shropshire Corona Resilience Network” Facebook group. I managed to join and could find no trace of Matthews. All I could see was the pornography of the paranoid. There were quack posts on how vaccines may kill you. Anti-NHS posts accusing doctors of “fear-mongering”. Racist posts saying that Jews deserved to be persecuted. Pro-Putin posts from his RT propaganda station. But nothing by or about Matthews, until he died, that is, when a grotesque struggle over his body began.

Covid can’t have killed him, it just can’t. No hard fact can be allowed to break through the defensive walls of an enclosed ideology, even after the death of a friend. “The cause of death is currently listed as Covid-19,” Parker told his followers. “It is now the duty of those he has left behind to ensure that his name is not used to further this gargantuan fraud.” Parker hinted that Matthews had asthma and it might have killed him. (This is news to his family.) Others suggested he took his own life. I’ve seen screenshots of a WhatsApp conversation where a Shrewsbury conspiracist says he “could have been murdered” by shadowy figures – Bill Gates, maybe, or the head of an intensive care unit – because he was “part of the movement, one of us”.

Matthews’s cousin Tristan Copeland said he had begged him to wear a mask and maintain social distance. “But he and his friends had the mindset that they needed to go out and meet people to show they didn’t believe the government.” Perhaps his posturing killed him.

How mad and how different from what passes for respectable opinion. But shift the conversation just a little and the conspiracy theories are not so different from the propaganda pouring out of rightwing radio stations and newspapers. Their claims that masks and lockdowns don’t work, that Covid is no more deadly than the flu, that 91% of so-called Covid cases are false positives and that there are no excess deaths are as false as imagining Gates wants to microchip the world and just as deadly. It’s not that they are made by people who know nothing that makes them so objectionable. They are made by people who can never know anything. Just as the anti-vaxxers of Shrewsbury had to deny the reason for the death of their comrade, so the presenters on Talkradio and LBC and the columnists on the Telegraph must maintain their ignorance and scream down all who try to enlighten them or their audience will look elsewhere.

Throughout this piece, I have tried to emphasise that Gary Matthews’s true friends said that he may have been an unlucky and limited man but he wasn’t a bad man. He deserved better than to have his life endangered by a flood of fake news – and so do millions of others.

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#2640850 24-Jan-2021 10:52

It's really bad.

I personally know people in NZ and US that only reads the conspiracy news and believe them to the truth and ignores all mainstream media inc Fox believing them to be lies.

The cause /source of all these..... Social media!

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#2640853 24-Jan-2021 10:56

Larry king has succumb today

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/broadcasting-legend-larry-king-dies-after-covid-19-battle/GUEPTPKFUWVA4IENBWQTOE2UVY/

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#2640864 24-Jan-2021 11:56

I wonder how many kiwis really understand how vulnerable we are.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300212184/timely-test-fears-a-sluggish-response-will-lead-to-another-covid19-outbreak

I really don't think most people realise how close we potentially are to another outbreak.

This except caught my eye.

And that’s the problem, he says. As soon as we started to think we’d done well, we were in a dangerous position.

“The minute you think you're best in show, you become complacent and you start bullsh.....g. You start setting the facts to the narrative rather than narrative to the facts. Hence, the: ‘Everyone’s being tested’. No they’re not. ‘No-one is being let go early’. Oh, yes they are. It just goes on and on.”

It’s a failure of governance and management, he says. And it leads to a resistance to outside ideas.

These experts have concerns, yet the MOH says it's all good. Which is it? I don't have all that much trust in the MOH. There's been too many instances where they have said one thing but history has proven them wrong. e.g. They said there were plenty of face mask for staff yet front line staff have said there was a shortage.

We got lucky in the past. How often can we go on being lucky?

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#2640868 24-Jan-2021 12:05

Technofreak:

We got lucky in the past. How often can we go on being lucky?

There is a saying that people make their own luck. You seem to be a bit negative in many of your posts, and maybe you are right, but what I see is most countries comparable to us stumbling while we continue to breeze through unaffected. Maybe it is just dumb luck but the relevant authorities seem to be batting a thousand so far and I am happy to put my faith in them. That is not say they shouldn't be constantly scrutinised and questioned, but maybe they also deserve some credit for making the right calls. I know I would rather be here than anywhere else.

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#2640916 24-Jan-2021 12:25

Technofreak:

I wonder how many kiwis really understand how vulnerable we are.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300212184/timely-test-fears-a-sluggish-response-will-lead-to-another-covid19-outbreak

I really don't think most people realise how close we potentially are to another outbreak.

This except caught my eye.

And that’s the problem, he says. As soon as we started to think we’d done well, we were in a dangerous position.

“The minute you think you're best in show, you become complacent and you start bullsh.....g. You start setting the facts to the narrative rather than narrative to the facts. Hence, the: ‘Everyone’s being tested’. No they’re not. ‘No-one is being let go early’. Oh, yes they are. It just goes on and on.”

It’s a failure of governance and management, he says. And it leads to a resistance to outside ideas.

These experts have concerns, yet the MOH says it's all good. Which is it? I don't have all that much trust in the MOH. There's been too many instances where they have said one thing but history has proven them wrong. e.g. They said there were plenty of face mask for staff yet front line staff have said there was a shortage.

We got lucky in the past. How often can we go on being lucky?

One minute Baker is on the downer, then he is expousing our awesome response to the international community, last week I think it was now its on the negative again. If he wants better, then lock these all up, each one in a seperate room, and sold the food under the door. Right now we probably don't have dedicated locations, and there is a risk. A small but accepted risk. Why wasn't the MIQ idea discarded on day one by every virus expert? What was their solution?