2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2676324 18-Mar-2021 07:45

tdgeek:

Are we still working on border and border related vaccinations? Australia is too, or are they on the masses mode now?

Australia (well, NSW anyway) are well past the "border related" stage.
My parents and all the other residents of their Rest Home in Sydney had their first jabs a week ago (11th March).
My Mum says she is looking forward to going out shopping by mid-April, something she hasn't been able to do for over a year

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#2676325 18-Mar-2021 07:51

PolicyGuy:

tdgeek:

Are we still working on border and border related vaccinations? Australia is too, or are they on the masses mode now?

Australia (well, NSW anyway) are well past the "border related" stage.
My parents and all the other residents of their Rest Home in Sydney had their first jabs a week ago (11th March).
My Mum says she is looking forward to going out shopping by mid-April, something she hasn't been able to do for over a year

Nice!

I can't see the point of the graph that was posted when we are working on border related people and Australia is working on the whole population.

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#2676329 18-Mar-2021 08:24

tdgeek:

I can't see the point of the graph that was posted when we are working on border related people and Australia is working on the whole population.

I think the point of the graph *is* that we are still only working on border related people and Australia is working on the whole population.

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#2676330 18-Mar-2021 08:28

frankv:

tdgeek:

I can't see the point of the graph that was posted when we are working on border related people and Australia is working on the whole population.

I think the point of the graph *is* that we are still only working on border related people and Australia is working on the whole population.

Ok, so a complaint then, all good

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#2676333 18-Mar-2021 08:34

More smoke around a unilateral NZ 'bubble' with AU being near

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/438615/nz-not-too-far-off-working-out-trans-tasman-bubble-deputy-pm-grant-robertson

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#2676336 18-Mar-2021 08:38

tdgeek:

Are we still working on border and border related vaccinations? Australia is too, or are they on the masses mode now?

".. we're beginning to start the process of moving into group two," (Hipkins, 17 Mar)

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/438561/covid-19-three-cases-in-miq-none-in-community

Yeah, ".. beginning to start the process .."

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#2676341 18-Mar-2021 09:00

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".. we're beginning to start the process of moving into group two," (Hipkins, 17 Mar)

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/438561/covid-19-three-cases-in-miq-none-in-community

Yeah, ".. beginning to start the process .."

So lets check then when its apples vs apples

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#2676343 18-Mar-2021 09:07

DS248:

Following links from the FT Vaccine Tracker leads to RNZ, where the source is identified; ie. namely, Hipkins press briefings. The data are the same as in the Herald.

Poor that the Herald do not appear to identify the source.

There is no decent tracking data for NZ, We only have the weekly updates from Hipkins, which IMHO is not good enough....

They have a database that all the vaccinations are being recorded into, so running a daily count report would not be too arduous,

If they are worried about database security they could have someone just re key the info onto the bottom of the MoH's daily covid case updates...

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#2676344 18-Mar-2021 09:09

This isnt bad, and up to date

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita

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#2676352 18-Mar-2021 09:20

PolicyGuy:
tdgeek:

Are we still working on border and border related vaccinations? Australia is too, or are they on the masses mode now?

Australia (well, NSW anyway) are well past the "border related" stage.
My parents and all the other residents of their Rest Home in Sydney had their first jabs a week ago (11th March).
My Mum says she is looking forward to going out shopping by mid-April, something she hasn't been able to do for over a year

There’s actually sort of 2 rollouts underway in Australia. State government with border workers and healthcare and second, Commonwealth government doing aged care first then general public. They want the credit for rollout. State governments have offered to help Commonwealth government. Seems difficult when states aren’t sure how many vaccines are being delivered to them or if they’re showing up. Makes planning difficult but then again the same goes for the commonwealth. Italy blocked the AZ vaccine to Australia. They’re also trying to divert some to Papua New Guinea. Challenging really.

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#2676358 18-Mar-2021 09:36

chatterbox:

There’s actually sort of 2 rollouts underway in Australia. State government with border workers and healthcare and second, Commonwealth government doing aged care first then general public. They want the credit for rollout. State governments have offered to help Commonwealth government. Seems difficult when states aren’t sure how many vaccines are being delivered to them or if they’re showing up. Makes planning difficult but then again the same goes for the commonwealth. Italy blocked the AZ vaccine to Australia. They’re also trying to divert some to Papua New Guinea. Challenging really.

This article points to a few interesting wrinkles in the OZ rollout of the AstraZeneca Vaccine , such as now having a 12 week gap for the 2nd injection,

But basically Australia is hanging out for the end of March when they are expecting large scale local production to come on stream producing upto a million doses a week...

Although I do like the way they have given the Australian finger to the EU after having a shipment of 250K from Italy blocked, they have simply gone back to the EU yesterday and said we now need 1 million doses, so we can administer them in PNG :)....

https://theconversation.com/australias-covid-vaccine-rollout-is-well-behind-schedule-but-dont-panic-157048

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#2676381 18-Mar-2021 10:20

Reanalyse:

One real scary issue is where entire countries such as Tanzania get locked into "Covid19 does not exist because it has been prayed away", and refuses vaccines. This could mean a large number of Covid19 sufferers and virus mutations that could render vaccines less effective. But what can be done about this ?

He's dead.

Officially from heart issue but he'd apparently been flown overseas for treatment of severe covid Recently.

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#2676384 18-Mar-2021 10:25

Olympic team wants 600 vaccines. That's not a lot of them I thought we'd have more

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/124569131/nz-olympic-team-is-waiting-on-government-approval-to-get-500600-covid19-vaccines-for-tokyo

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#2676399 18-Mar-2021 10:36

Batman: Olympic team wants 600 vaccines. That's not a lot of them I thought we'd have more

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/124569131/nz-olympic-team-is-waiting-on-government-approval-to-get-500600-covid19-vaccines-for-tokyo

So does some ethnic group I saw in the news the other day. I guess many feel they are the priority

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#2676406 18-Mar-2021 10:48

DS248:

More smoke around a unilateral NZ 'bubble' with AU being near

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/438615/nz-not-too-far-off-working-out-trans-tasman-bubble-deputy-pm-grant-robertson

Yip... The Bubble Drums are beating pretty loud this morning

"Deputy Prime Minister Grant Robertson says he's "very optimistic" the government can work out conditions for a travel bubble soon.

Earlier today, Robertson said since then New Zealand had been working on the unilateral approach and the government was not "too far off" being able to create a New Zealand version."

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