2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2436647 12-Mar-2020 09:19

something looks a bit fishy about NZ's travel policy

complete ban for travellers from China and Iran

self isolation for travellers from Italy and South Korea

Australia's weird

complete ban for China South Korea Iran and then waited for F1 teams to arrive then complete ban for Italy

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#2436649 12-Mar-2020 09:24

Varkk:

5 days after 6 months is the minimum required by law, so is standard in NZ. I don't think they have to allow it to accumulate. The rest is the standard laid out in the law.

Allowing accumulation up to 20 days is required by law,

http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2003/0129/latest/whole.html#DLM237163

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66 Sick leave may be carried over

(1) An employee may carry over, to any subsequent 12-month period of employment, any sick leave that has not been taken by the end of the period to which the leave relates.

(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), an employee may carry over up to 15 days’ sick leave to a maximum of 20 days’ current entitlement in any year.

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#2436653 12-Mar-2020 09:30

Just saw this on Facebook, even OCI holders who have dual citizenship are not allowed to travel to India.

LATEST UPDATE FOR TRAVEL TO INDIA. ALL VISAS SUSPENDED TILL 15TH APRIL 2020.

Nationals of all countries suspended from travelling to India until 15th April regardless of which citizenzhip you hold. OCI travel suspended too!

Only diplomats or Indian passport holders are allowed to enter India at this present time.

If you have booked tickets to travel before 15th April 2020 get them changed now!

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#2436655 12-Mar-2020 09:36

MikeB4: I have to take my wife to the Doctor first thing this morning after talking to them. They will meet us in the car park with masks and kit on. To say I am worried is an under statement.

Still no transmissible cases in NZ, but that will change very soon. Merkel is calling out the real facts when she estimates that 70% of Germany will get the virus.

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#2436656 12-Mar-2020 09:37

Facebook is an unreliable source, but that seems to verified by Indian news sites:

All tourist visas suspended till April 15th to prevent coronavirus spread: Govt

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#2436657 12-Mar-2020 09:41

MikeB4: I have to take my wife to the Doctor first thing this morning after talking to them. They will meet us in the car park with masks and kit on. To say I am worried is an under statement.

All the best Mike, hope it turns out to be nothing to worry about.

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#2436658 12-Mar-2020 09:41

Currently waiting waiting waiting for the next step. I am sure my BP has shot up. She has a heart condition so yeah it's a concern.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2436659 12-Mar-2020 09:42

Mahon:

Merkel is calling out the real facts when she estimates that 70% of Germany will get the virus.

Yes. It probably won't be verifiable over the course of the pandemic - only later. I understand that quick tests for Covid-19 antibodies (ie from a blood test) are being produced, but only after the pandemic will there be figures from these tests carried out on population samples, that'll pick up asymptomatic/mild cases not being detected now.

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#2436661 12-Mar-2020 09:45

MikeB4: Currently waiting waiting waiting for the next step. I am sure my BP has shot up. She has a heart condition so yeah it's a concern.

Statistically it's very very unlikely she has Covid-19. She'll be fine. Take care - including of yourself.

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#2436662 12-Mar-2020 09:46

Ademir:

In two weeks the whole world will be like Italy.😷

This is an overreaction, as the article below suggests NZ's current five Covid cases might grow to 320 in 30 days. However, left unchecked, this could grow to 20,480 in 60 days.

So, it might take at least 60 days before we would have "real" problems, but the calculations are based on the situation being "left unchecked". Although the Government is not leaving the situation "unchecked", there is some criticism that large gatherings, concerts and public events are being allowed to go ahead.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/11/1078054/some-worrying-calculations-on-covid-19

From the above:

Our Prime Minister must think we’re much smarter than Italy, Japan, China, the UK and everyone else at pandemic control. In letting large gatherings, concerts and public events to go ahead she is ultimately exposing our loved ones and assuming a risk nobody can reasonably measure.

The coronavirus is currently doubling every five days or so. That’s a DAILY growth rate in the number of infected persons of about 14 percent. In just 30 days, left unchecked at 14 percent daily compounding growth, it will grow by a factor of 64. Each infected person walking around infects will infect 64 new people each month.

At this rate, New Zealand’s five Covid-19 cases might grow to 320 in 30 days and 20,480 in 60 days. And this is a disease that results in 20 percent of those infected needing hospitalisation, many needing a breathing tube. Of those infected over the age of 80, 14.8 percent die. It is not the flu.

From the Government's viewpoint, it must be very difficult to know when it's really necessary to close down large gatherings, concerts and public events. If NZ was to go into lockdown NOW, would this really be the right thing to do and would it reduce considerably the spread of this virus? And just how long would NZ have to remain in lockdown?

It's very easy for journalists to say the Government should be doing more, but a prolonged period of us all self-isolating could cause even worse situations, such as people and shops running out of food and money. So, everyone has to learn to KEEP CALM and not at any time go into "panic" mode!

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#2436665 12-Mar-2020 09:55

Keeping an eye on the Truckometer to see if behavioural changes are reflected in the light traffic index.

Nothing significant yet, Feb numbers here: https://www.anz.co.nz/content/dam/anzconz/documents/economics-and-market-research/2020/ANZ-Truckometer-20200310.pdf

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#2436668 12-Mar-2020 10:02

frednz:

This is an overreaction, as the article below suggests NZ's current five Covid cases might grow to 320 in 30 days.

To put that in perspective, unless I missed a decimal point somewhere, 320 cases in NZ is approximately the same % of the population infected as the whole of China has had.

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#2436669 12-Mar-2020 10:05

tdgeek:

Ge0rge: SO has essentially infinite sick leave - there is no talley kept. However, leave there is also a privilege, not a right. The employer has every right under NZ law to deny AL, for whatever period they see fit, if circumstances require it.

Free sick leave can come at a cost...

I love it how, if a company has say 5 days SL, that most/many employees coincidentally have that allowance used each year. It gets abused

In my experience doing payroll.

30% use their 5 days entitlement of sick leave in about 3 months, meaning they have no sick leave for the remaining 9 months

30% use their 5 days sick entitlement of sick leave over the course of the year.

20% have 5-10 days accumulated at any one time

10% have 10 -20 days accumulated at any one time

10% hit the 20 days maximum, they never seam to be sick

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#2436711 12-Mar-2020 10:10

dogstar001:

In my experience doing payroll.

30% use their 5 days entitlement of sick leave in about 3 months, meaning they have no sick leave for the remaining 9 months

30% use their 5 days sick entitlement of sick leave over the course of the year.

20% have 5-10 days accumulated at any one time

10% have 10 -20 days accumulated at any one time

10% hit the 20 days maximum, they never seam to be sick

Interesting. 60% use it all up every year. Any idea how many unpaid sick days occur?

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#2436713 12-Mar-2020 10:13

MikeB4: Currently waiting waiting waiting for the next step. I am sure my BP has shot up. She has a heart condition so yeah it's a concern.

Fingers crossed.

It's interesting about sick leave. I rarely used mine in the six years I've been at my job, I travel a lot so it's tough to actually take a day off if I'm unwell. Often the motel/hotel may need the room so I couldn't stay in bed if I wanted. I just work short days if I'm ill.
Long story short I've been off work for five weeks as I broke my hip mountain biking (snapped the neck of my femur). ACC have been great and work have said they'll just use my sick leave to top up the 20% difference from ACC.
I had no idea it accrued.
It's been easy to self isolate though!

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