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  #2736306 29-Jun-2021 13:55
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Fred99:

 

Wellington to drop back to level 1 at midnight.

 

Travel bubble planned to resume with SA, ACT,  Vic, and Tas from July 5.

 

(that's being reported in Aus - doesn't seem to have made the news in NZ yet)

 

 

 

 

What about travel to VIC from NZ? Has the bubble been opened in that direction? Thanks





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  #2736307 29-Jun-2021 13:58
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Parts of Qld in lockdown:

 

 

From 6pm tonight til 6pm Friday, southeast Queensland, Townsville, Palm Island and Magnetic Island will go into lockdown.

 

The Premier says the case in the young hospital worker "leaves us with no option". 

 

Unvaccinated hospital worker (receptionist) who worked near (note - not in - just near) a Covid ward went on holiday to Magnetic Island when probably infectious.
They had one other CT case - connected to the NT mine cluster.

 

(Are there any hospital workers in NZ still unvaccinated?  Everybody I know has been done, but I heard bad things about healthcare workers at Middlemore - which may be no more than rumour, I hope.  I chose not to believe it - something like 20% or workers refusing vaccine when offered - that supposed "fact" told to me by a person with "vaccine hesitancy" who had worked there, so she was probably trying out the line "see - even healthcare workers think the vaccine is bad") 


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  #2736308 29-Jun-2021 13:59
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On the vaccine supply fail.
Well if anyone knows a large excess of vaccines sitting waiting for us to order that can ship immediately ?

 

Europe is still pursuing a case against AZ for not meeting its commitments, with hints they are miffed with vaccines delivered outside Europe.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/new-eu-legal-case-against-astrazeneca-over-vaccine-supplies-gets-underway-2021-05-11/ 

 

Taiwan is living on ad-hock and charitable donations. 
Japan to donate 1 million more doses of AstraZeneca vaccine to Taiwan
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4232242

They had major donations from USA, and even smaller donation from Lithuania 
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20210623_08/

 

TSMC as world largest semiconductor FAB might squeeze 10M doses out of BioNTech Germany, maybe they need chips ?
Charitable organizations begging as major pharma won't negotiate with Taiwan may be less successful.
https://taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2021/06/25/2003759786

 

They might look enviously at our slow but sure supply, being at the front line, and still grinding down their recent outbreak.

 

Problems with Brazil, even though they have their own manufacturing capability, its reliant on imported technology and reagents.
https://in.news.yahoo.com/brazil-halts-sinovac-vaccine-production-171007379.htm

On this going public, precursors for 25 Million shots are on the way. 

 

Ukraine seems to have removed itself from a 50 nation statement on Xinjiang, co-incident with arrangements for vaccines from China perhaps ?

 

Everyone wantiss it, my preciousssss.




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  #2736309 29-Jun-2021 14:00
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mouarg:

 

 

 

Fred99:

 

Wellington to drop back to level 1 at midnight.

 

Travel bubble planned to resume with SA, ACT,  Vic, and Tas from July 5.

 

(that's being reported in Aus - doesn't seem to have made the news in NZ yet)

 

 

 

 

What about travel to VIC from NZ? Has the bubble been opened in that direction? Thanks

 

 

Yes - from 11:59pm July 4, 72 hour negative test required.

 

Just remember this could change at any time, for obvious reasons.


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  #2736317 29-Jun-2021 14:09
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Not surprised Welly is going back to L1.

 

Very surprised we are opening the bubble back up.


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  #2736318 29-Jun-2021 14:11
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ezbee:

 

On the vaccine supply fail.

 

 

Cuba is making their own vaccine, according to their data, it's very effective (>92%).

 

If that seems unlikely, it probably isn't - their healthcare system is good - considering the obstacles they face.  It seems to be working very well where they're rolling it out.  They'll probably end up exporting it.


 
 
 
 

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  #2736320 29-Jun-2021 14:16
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Not surprised Welly is going back to L1.

 

Very surprised we are opening the bubble back up.

 

 

 

 

Aren't we only opening it up in places to allow people to return, and only in states that haven't had cases? But if we are opening it up, we are again playing Russian Roulette for very little benefit, and at some point we will get caught out.

 

 

 

I also noticed that even though the Wairarapa is also in level 2 and was seen as a risk, they don't appear to be doing waste water testing in the Wairarapa, even though there was a scare this weekend that someone tested weak positive, but a second test showed they weren't.


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  #2736321 29-Jun-2021 14:19
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I wonder what parts of NZ don't do wastewater testing...


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  #2736322 29-Jun-2021 14:22
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Fred99:

 

Wellington to drop back to level 1 at midnight.

 

Travel bubble planned to resume with SA, ACT,  Vic, and Tas from July 5.

 

(that's being reported in Aus - doesn't seem to have made the news in NZ yet)

 

 

 

What about travel to VIC from NZ? Has the bubble been opened in that direction? Thanks

 

 

 

Yes - from 11:59pm July 4, 72 hour negative test required.

 

Just remember this could change at any time, for obvious reasons.

 

 

 

 

Thanks, but isn't that the case if you are travelling to NZ from AUS and not the other way round? This is the  text from Stuff and only talks about travelling from AUS :S

 

Chris Hipkins said Cabinet had made the decision “in principle” to lift the pause to allow travellers from South Australia, ACT, Tasmania and Victoria to travel to New Zealand from 11.59pm on Sunday July 4.

 

 

 

 





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  #2736326 29-Jun-2021 14:25
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Batman:

FineWine:


Very interesting article from the BBC News: Mixing Covid vaccines gives good protection, study suggests


That might speed things up in Aussie, cause don't they have both and are making the AZ themselves?


It should should certainly be great for the poorer countries who could now buy from whomever is offering the cheapest at the time.



best T cell response AZ first the Pfizer.


now where are our AZ supply ...



Go and read the article again.

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  #2736331 29-Jun-2021 14:39
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Fred99:

 

wellygary:

 

The 72 hour negative test will probably slow down leisure travel bookings, 

 

 

Aaah - that wasn't mentioned in the news I read earlier. Can't say I'm sad about it. 

 

OTOH the 72 hour test probably wouldn't have picked up the case we had before he flew to Wgtn.

 

 

It wouldn't have "probably not" picked up his infection, it wouldn't have picked up his infection. He would have flown to Wellington after presenting a negative test at check-in.

 

From a comment I saw elsewhere it seems he most likely became infected at work on the Thursday. Assuming somebody was flying on the Friday afternoon you would need to be tested on Wednesday to guarantee getting the result back before travel.

 

 


 
 
 
 

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  #2736333 29-Jun-2021 14:43
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mouarg:

 

 

 

Fred99:

 

Wellington to drop back to level 1 at midnight.

 

Travel bubble planned to resume with SA, ACT,  Vic, and Tas from July 5.

 

(that's being reported in Aus - doesn't seem to have made the news in NZ yet)

 

 

 

 

What about travel to VIC from NZ? Has the bubble been opened in that direction? Thanks

 

 

The bubble was never suspended flying to Australia - airlines have still been flying every day. They just can't bring people back from Australia.

 

 


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  #2736334 29-Jun-2021 14:45
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Batman:

 

SJB:

 

He would possibly be dead now if he hadn't have had the jabs.

 

 

i thought there's a 99%-99.9% chance of him not dying?

 

 

Possibly includes 0.1%-1% chance, and of course it also includes .0000000000001%. Especially if it's in a headline.

 

 


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  #2736335 29-Jun-2021 15:00
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/300344785/its-despicable-kiwis-stranded-in-australia-call-on-government-to-help-them-get-home

 

Got to love how on one hand, they say "we accept the risk of travelling in the bubble" then in the very same breath complain that the Govt isn't helping them.

 

Travel to Aus (and I assume the Cooks now) always was at the travellers own risk, the Govt were clear on the fact that if you got caught out o/seas, you have to be prepared for that, but good old Stuff, giving print / web space to the bleeding heart stories about people caught in Aus.


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  #2736343 29-Jun-2021 15:18
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sbiddle:

 

What about travel to VIC from NZ? Has the bubble been opened in that direction? Thanks

 

 

 

The bubble was never suspended flying to Australia - airlines have still been flying every day. They just can't bring people back from Australia.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you that makes sense.





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