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#2739874 6-Jul-2021 19:03

Same as the Russians through here after the hoha of them loading up the sudima.

Seems they've done a deal where they skip using MIQ slots, straight onto own bus and direct to boat. Port to port. International grounds still. Do not pass go etc etc

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#2739878 6-Jul-2021 19:05

It is easy for this to happen, because pre departure testing isn't that accurate. Shows why we can't rely on it with our bubble.

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#2739879 6-Jul-2021 19:05

freitasm:

How can this happen? Covid-19: Pair isolating on fishing vessel, three onshore contacts identified, after mariners' trip from Auckland Airport to Port Taranaki | Stuff.co.nz

Two positive Covid-19 test results have been returned from two mariners isolating on a fishing vessel off the coast of Taranaki, the Ministry of Health has confirmed.

In a statement on Tuesday night, the ministry said the pair were part of a group of nine who arrived at Auckland Airport on Monday before driving to New Plymouth where they joined a deep sea fishing vessel.

Health officials currently regard the situation as representing a low risk to public health, but three people have been identified as contacts and are now isolating. They included their driver and port workers.

Just read this too, I hope everyone still has their covid dodging shoes on.

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#2739885 6-Jul-2021 19:27

Daynger: Just read this too, I hope everyone still has their covid dodging shoes on.

682,598 QR code scans so far today and another 29,238 manual entries - I'm sure that must cover anyone that went out today. No problem.

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#2739886 6-Jul-2021 19:29

freitasm:

How can this happen? Covid-19: Pair isolating on fishing vessel, three onshore contacts identified, after mariners' trip from Auckland Airport to Port Taranaki | Stuff.co.nz

Two positive Covid-19 test results have been returned from two mariners isolating on a fishing vessel off the coast of Taranaki, the Ministry of Health has confirmed.

In a statement on Tuesday night, the ministry said the pair were part of a group of nine who arrived at Auckland Airport on Monday before driving to New Plymouth where they joined a deep sea fishing vessel.

Health officials currently regard the situation as representing a low risk to public health, but three people have been identified as contacts and are now isolating. They included their driver and port workers.

I think that you will find these trips are a regular occurrence, in both the North and South Islands.

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#2739939 6-Jul-2021 19:53

freitasm:

How can this happen? Covid-19: Pair isolating on fishing vessel, three onshore contacts identified, after mariners' trip from Auckland Airport to Port Taranaki | Stuff.co.nz

Two positive Covid-19 test results have been returned from two mariners isolating on a fishing vessel off the coast of Taranaki, the Ministry of Health has confirmed.

In a statement on Tuesday night, the ministry said the pair were part of a group of nine who arrived at Auckland Airport on Monday before driving to New Plymouth where they joined a deep sea fishing vessel.

Health officials currently regard the situation as representing a low risk to public health, but three people have been identified as contacts and are now isolating. They included their driver and port workers.

There has been an isolation and border exemption for replacement ship crew since very eairly in the pandemic. Click ship crew below:

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/about-us/covid-19/border-closures-and-exceptions/entry-to-new-zealand/critical-purpose-reasons-you-can-travel-to-new-zealand

Basically it seems to be doing our part in preventing the international maritime freight industry from grinding to a Holt when ships need crew replacements (And I think many crew have done many time's their normal cycle on even with this).

Health guidance here:

https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/pages/testing_guidance_for_ship_crew_changes_-_final_v2.pdf

Basically the people are never in the community (they either get transferred directly but get put in MIQ if a delay is requred). So risk to the community is minimal. We do require a test, I assume this means their driver, and any other contacts get contact traced in this circumstance.

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#2740108 6-Jul-2021 21:29

I read this before - it's a very complex read but is pretty interesting.

COVID-19 vaccines dampen genomic diversity of SARS-CoV-2: Unvaccinated patients exhibit more antigenic mutational variance

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#2740289 7-Jul-2021 07:48

more expert opinion on our country

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/125665800/covid19-prepare-for-the-year-of-outbreaks-in-aotearoa

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#2740297 7-Jul-2021 07:56

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#2740300 7-Jul-2021 08:03

Batman:

more expert opinion on our country

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/125665800/covid19-prepare-for-the-year-of-outbreaks-in-aotearoa

Headline is a bit sensationalist, but its probably not far off. No country will achieve massive vaccination rates, the bubble will be free movement of vaccinated but transmissable Covid, you would expect that it will appear and work on the ones that cant or wont vaccinate. The elderly and frail who are medically advised not to be vaccinated will be hit as rest homes will be easy prey. Get vaccinated and hope you are in the 90 odd % effective portion as are everyone you associate with

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#2740306 7-Jul-2021 08:14

Batman:

more expert opinion on our country

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/125665800/covid19-prepare-for-the-year-of-outbreaks-in-aotearoa

The problem I see right now is all the experts including Bloomfield now warning us of the cold hard realities of what life is going to be like here in coming years, and a Govt that's telling us the opposite.

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#2740310 7-Jul-2021 08:21

sbiddle:

The problem I see right now is all the experts including Bloomfield now warning us of the cold hard realities of what life is going to be like here in coming years, and a Govt that's telling us the opposite.

Hipkins says it will be fine after vaccinations? Back to normal in January? I havent read Govt saying it wont be a long term thing to manage. All I read was that we dont agree with living with Covid while vaccinations are still in progress

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#2740316 7-Jul-2021 08:33

tdgeek:

Hipkins says it will be fine after vaccinations? Back to normal in January? I havent read Govt saying it wont be a long term thing to manage. All I read was that we dont agree with living with Covid while vaccinations are still in progress

I don't think we're going back to 'normal' any time soon - unless 'normal' is 'we might get lock-downs here and there for two weeks if covid breaks out in communities with lower vaccine uptake than others'.

You could possibly have a lot more confidence that a two week lockdown is going to do the job than we do currently.

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#2740317 7-Jul-2021 08:38

GV27:

tdgeek:

Hipkins says it will be fine after vaccinations? Back to normal in January? I havent read Govt saying it wont be a long term thing to manage. All I read was that we dont agree with living with Covid while vaccinations are still in progress

I don't think we're going back to 'normal' any time soon - unless 'normal' is 'we might get lock-downs here and there for two weeks if covid breaks out in communities with lower vaccine uptake than others'.

You could possibly have a lot more confidence that a two week lockdown is going to do the job than we do currently.

Yep, agree, I havent heard anyone suggest otherwise, which was my query

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#2740322 7-Jul-2021 08:43

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/125651153/covid19-businesses-should-plan-for-borders-being-closed-in-two-or-three-years-time-rob-fyfe-says

I guess y'all saw this a couple of days ago.

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