2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2781120 20-Sep-2021 14:01

It would be interesting to see of breakdown of the personality types of those that are catching and spreading the virus.

My guess is:

Conscientiousness = low

Agreeableness = low

Neuroticism = low

Openness to Experience = medium to high

Extraversion = medium to high

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#2781121 20-Sep-2021 14:03

On2or3wheels:
heavenlywild:
She needs to give us a carrot. Vaccinate by x date and you'll be able to travel, or others could come in without MiQ, or whatever.

Really, is the get vaccinated or you might die not enough.

Obviously not based on recent figures dropping day by day.

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#2781122 20-Sep-2021 14:03

On2or3wheels:

heavenlywild:
She needs to give us a carrot. Vaccinate by x date and you'll be able to travel, or others could come in without MiQ, or whatever.

Really, is the get vaccinated or you might die not enough.

Pretty much, no.

They need to now appeal to a demographic that is hesitant to get the vaccine, or doesn't think Covid will affect them.

A carrot is a good idea.

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#2781124 20-Sep-2021 14:08

$100 per person for being fully vaxed.

Much cheaper overall than lockdowns.

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#2781125 20-Sep-2021 14:10

trig42:
Has it got into the gangs? This will go on till Christmas if they don't stop the bubble popping.

I'm frustrated now. I've been at home for 5 weeks (not that I mind being home), but I'm seeing my employer dying slowly from a thousand cuts, and I won't be the only one.

Gangs for sure. It's in the prison. Where did the Waikato guy catch it? From the prison for sure.

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#2781126 20-Sep-2021 14:11

heavenlywild: $100 per person for being fully vaxed.

Much cheaper overall than lockdowns.

Even $1000 per dose is cheaper

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#2781128 20-Sep-2021 14:12

heavenlywild:

Those who choose not to get vaccinated they can face their own consequences.

It doesn't work like this. You WILL be affected in some way by the unvaccinated. I can't be bothered listing all the reasons again.

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#2781129 20-Sep-2021 14:13

On2or3wheels:

heavenlywild:
She needs to give us a carrot. Vaccinate by x date and you'll be able to travel, or others could come in without MiQ, or whatever.

Really, is the get vaccinated or you might die not enough.

Do what they did in the old days, get some guy to go off for a few days and come back with a piece of stone saying 'Thou will get vaccinated' written on it

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#2781130 20-Sep-2021 14:14

You can't start paying people as they'll expect it for every vaccine & will hold off until there IS a payment.

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#2781131 20-Sep-2021 14:14

heavenlywild: $100 per person for being fully vaxed.

Much cheaper overall than lockdowns.

Bit rough on those people who see the value of being vaccinated and are already.

Plus, you'll introduce the issue of people waiting for payouts for the next pandemic.

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#2781132 20-Sep-2021 14:15

MaxineN:

People who think Auckland is going down to level 3 will be sorely disappointed. Waikato should join level 4 with Auckland IMO and I expect SI and the rest (maybe northland stays at level 2 due to the transport links and how much that area relies on Auckland)to go down to level 1.

There is no way at all Auckland moves down and it’s just how delta works and we can’t change that except continue to eliminate and lockdown.

I imagine we’ll now need extra (extra)support from government for business and individuals now.

What people think "should" can be quite different to what people think will happen.

It seems highly probable that Auckland (and the upper waikato) move to level 3 at 11:59pm Tuesday. You don't have the finance minister go on breakfast TV and talk up what a good handle we have on this (despite the data saying otherwise), if you arn't planning to drop the alert level in Auckland.

The last week makes it pretty clear that level 4 is enough to keep a lid on covid-19, but not enough to eliminate it in a timely manner. No point staying at level 4 to achieve nothing like last week. We cannot expect to eliminate it in a timely way.

If we are serious about elimination, up to level 5.

If we are going to call time on the elimination idea, down to level 3 to get most people back to work.

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#2781133 20-Sep-2021 14:16

trig42:
What are they going to do to stop inter-household transmission in South Auckland.

They MUST know it is happening.

They MUST know why.

They aren't saying anything at the stand-ups, becaus ethey know there'll be vitriol on social media.

BUT, it is costing Aucklanders a fortune, and most of them are behaving.

Are there prayer meetings? Has it got into the gangs? This will go on till Christmas if they don't stop the bubble popping.

I'm frustrated now. I've been at home for 5 weeks (not that I mind being home), but I'm seeing my employer dying slowly from a thousand cuts, and I won't be the only one.

Putting the problem suburbs into a level 4.5 imo is the only solution unless they get far tougher overall.

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#2781134 20-Sep-2021 14:19

trig42:

What are they going to do to stop inter-household transmission in South Auckland.

They MUST know it is happening.

They MUST know why.

They aren't saying anything at the stand-ups, becaus ethey know there'll be vitriol on social media.

BUT, it is costing Aucklanders a fortune, and most of them are behaving.

Are there prayer meetings? Has it got into the gangs? This will go on till Christmas if they don't stop the bubble popping.

I'm frustrated now. I've been at home for 5 weeks (not that I mind being home), but I'm seeing my employer dying slowly from a thousand cuts, and I won't be the only one.

And yet its reported by our state media organisation about someone having socially distanced driveway drinks in the neighbourhood.

But our Government is "open and transparent".......

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#2781139 20-Sep-2021 14:24

mattwnz: Putting the problem suburbs into a level 4.5 imo is the only solution unless they get far tougher overall.

If they don't follow level 4 then they won't follow whatever level you give them.

I think there is a grand scale of underground movement that we don't know about. Have we tested the prison where the waikato case was released from?

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#2781141 20-Sep-2021 14:26

Press release:

Whānau Ora and Associate Health (Māori Health) Minister Peeni Henare acknowledges two major milestones in the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccination programme for Māori.

“I am very pleased to announce more than 50 percent of eligible Māori have received their first dose and 25 per cent are now fully vaccinated,” Peeni Henare said.

“This means over 285,000 of eligible Māori have had their first dose. This is fantastic news and demonstrates that the whānau-based approach we have taken across the roll-out is working.

“The success of vaccination rates increasing in our Māori communities is due to the mahi being led by our Māori Health Providers and Whānau Ora Provider Network. They are leading a whānau-centred approach, providing outreach in hard-to-reach communities and taking the extra step to ensure the needs of our whānau are met.

“I want to mihi to all the kaimahi across the motu who are working hard to support our whānau. Thank you so much for all you’ve done and continue to do for our people.

“I acknowledge our three leading district health boards in first dose vaccinations: Southern, 58.7%, Capital and Coast, 58.4% and Tāmaki Makaurau, 52.8%.

“Māori Health Providers are rolling out many different approaches available to whānau across the motu.

“But there is still more mahi to be done. That is why I am proud to support the work the Whānau Ora Commissioning Agency and Te Whānau o Waipareira’s Fight for your whakapapa campaign launching today.

“Te Whānau o Waipareira have led an innovative whānau-first vaccination response in Tāmaki Makaurau despite the challenges of the Alert Level 4 lockdown. They quickly set up drive-through vaccinations and allowed walk-ins to enable whānau to come at times convenient to them, and now are leading the rollout of the ‘Shot Bro’ bus across hard-to-reach communities”

“Starting Monday the 08004MAORI phone line will operate 7 days a week between 8am-8pm, while also using popular Auckland radio stations and social media platforms to keep whānau updated on where the mobile vaccination bus will be in the community.

“From the start of the vaccination rollout I have said that this is about protecting our whānau and our whakapapa but this is not a one size fits all approach.

“There is currently a range of vaccination options available for Māori including walk in vaccination centres, pharmacies, GPs, mobile and pop-up clinics, mass vaccinations, workplace events, drive-through centres and marae-based programmes.

“Everyone is playing their part in the push to get all Māori vaccinated, including Turanga Health who are providing local Māori vaccination training and the Southern District Health Board which is working with Māori health providers to vaccinate shearing gangs in rural and remote areas across the district.

“We’ve had Māori wardens in Kaikoura helping with the vaccine rollout to their Māori population over 75, resulting in a 100 percent vaccination rate for this population; Ngāti Hine Health Trust opening a vaccination centre in Whangārei; Northland iwi opening a mobile vaccination service; a community vaccination centre has opened in Tokoroa; Muriwhenua kura are leading door-to-door vaccination drives in the Far North, and targeted Māori vaccination centres in Taranaki are boosting vaccination rates. These are but a few initiatives being driven by Māori for Māori.

“I want to give a special shout-out to Natasha Kemp, Chief Executive of Manurewa Marae, who initiated a walk-in service for rangatahi Māori that has seen an increase in vaccination uptake as a result.

“All of these initiatives are proving a huge success and ensure that Māori can access culturally safe services that meet their needs. We know this is critical to boosting the vaccination uptake rate and ensuring equitable outcomes for Māori.

“While these figures are cause for celebration, we cannot afford to become complacent. It is vitally important that Māori continue to get themselves vaccinated not just for themselves, but for their kaumatua, their tamariki, and their communities.

“My number one message is come forward, get vaccinated. Once you are vaccinated, this helps make sure that you and your friends and whānau have the best protection against COVID-19,” Peeni Henare said.

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