2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2792375 9-Oct-2021 19:23

HelloThere:

The full story about the Katikati would be nice.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/10/coronavirus-person-in-katikati-tests-positive-for-covid-19.html

The Ministry of Health says the person got tested while in Auckland on Friday and it returned positive on Saturday while the person is in Katikati. The Bay of Plenty is currently under alert level 2.

The case lives in Pukekohe and is in the process of moving to a rural area north of Katikati, near to Tauranga. For this reason, the person was permitted to cross the boundary in and out of Auckland.

They were obviously part of a surveillance program as they were tested weekly - poteentially a border worker of some sort.

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#2792378 9-Oct-2021 19:28

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Batman: I think everywhere becomes level 3 while Auckland in level 2 or step 2 or whatever it's called. Reversal of the last 2 months.

Why is S.I. Level 3?

Give it a few days. Did you know its school holidays and there's something called air new zealand. I hope I'm wrong though, always happy to be wrong. I know someone in SI who has a holiday home in northland and I heard half of Auckland have holidays houses in SI

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#2792385 9-Oct-2021 19:48

Re: @Batman, I don’t want to make this political but in the current climate (ministers have alluded to this), it would take intense conditions to emerge for widespread level 3 lockdowns. I would honestly be surprised if the government did a snap nationwide level 3 unless there was imminent information supporting that decision.

Northlands level 3 was an understandable reaction based on the alarming reality of not knowing the extent of exposure. I suspect there is a lot of turning over rocks happening as we speak to understand the extent and hopefully a glide path back to level 2 if conditions merit it.

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#2792386 9-Oct-2021 19:50

ok fair enough.

on a more positive note, 90% project banner is now at 18.7%

and on the news black power leader getting vaccinated on 6pm news. hopefully gangs watch 6 o clock news

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#2792390 9-Oct-2021 20:12

Waikato numbers down to three today? That's good. Maybe it will fizzle out there. NZ needs some good news.

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#2792401 9-Oct-2021 21:01

sbiddle: They were obviously part of a surveillance program as they were tested weekly - poteentially a border worker of some sort.

If they were permanently relocating house they are permitted to cross the boundary multiple times but have to have a test on each trip. That's why they could have been tested in Friday.

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#2792457 9-Oct-2021 21:17

Buster: Waikato numbers down to three today? That's good. Maybe it will fizzle out there. NZ needs some good news.

I think a lot of people outside Auckland are really wanting to stamp it out, as they don't want to spend months in Level 3. Maybe it is helped by people outside Auckland far less likely to have lockdown fatigue as the restrictions were far shorter. People are really getting out there and tested and jabbed. I think there is a lot of fear, as people know that the risk to the health system is real. Some of the experts have said that it should be possible to keep it eliminated outside Auckland, so hopefully when cases pop up, they will get stamped out. As long as there aren't too many bad actors.

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#2792458 9-Oct-2021 21:29

mattwnz:
Buster: Waikato numbers down to three today? That's good. Maybe it will fizzle out there. NZ needs some good news.

I think a lot of people outside Auckland are really wanting to stamp it out, as they don't want to spend months in Level 3. Maybe it is helped by people outside Auckland far less likely to have lockdown fatigue as the restrictions were far shorter. People are really getting out there and tested and jabbed. I think there is a lot of fear, as people know that the risk to the health system is real. Some of the experts have said that it should be possible to keep it eliminated outside Auckland, so hopefully when cases pop up, they will get stamped out. As long as there aren't too many bad actors.

It won’t happen. There is too much movement of people.

It’s a race between vaccination and infection.

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#2792461 9-Oct-2021 21:48

Whaleoil gets (rightly) put in his place, after his "outing" of Dr Wiles:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/10/coronavirus-kiwis-amused-by-ministry-of-health-s-majestic-roast-of-blogger-cameron-slater.html

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#2792464 9-Oct-2021 21:53

The full text of the Singapore PM's speech earlier is a good read for those who didn't watch it live.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/protect-the-vulnerable-secure-singapores-future-full-text-of-pm-lees-speech-on

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#2792465 9-Oct-2021 21:56

HelloThere:
sbiddle: They were obviously part of a surveillance program as they were tested weekly - poteentially a border worker of some sort.

If they were permanently relocating house they are permitted to cross the boundary multiple times but have to have a test on each trip. That's why they could have been tested in Friday.

Ahh that'll also explain all the tests!

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#2792471 9-Oct-2021 22:16

sbiddle:

The full text of the Singapore PM's speech earlier is a good read for those who didn't watch it live.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/protect-the-vulnerable-secure-singapores-future-full-text-of-pm-lees-speech-on

every word is spot on

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#2792473 9-Oct-2021 22:41

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Cases stable. Too many flouting but not enough to blow it out. My feel, is that it will spread, thanks to those...., but the normal people will contain it well, leaving the rest to let it simmer

Thats how its playing out.

Cases aren’t stable. A week ago the 7 day rolling average was low 20s, now it’s around 35. The trend line is very clearly rising quite quickly.

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#2792478 9-Oct-2021 22:51

Seems a shame after all the hard work everyone put in last year to get the cases to 0 for as long as they were.

I have a dumb question, how did it get into the community anyway? Was it a guy coming here from Sydney, who completed quarantine and then went home to Devonport?

But if he completed his stay in MIQ (presumably he would have tested negative after the 14 days or whatever it is), how could he have suddenly tested positive afterwards? Did it sit dormant inside him until day 15 or something?
Sorry, I'm just struggling a bit to see how it got into the community in the first place.

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#2792479 9-Oct-2021 22:54

quickymart:

I have a dumb question, how did it get into the community anyway? Was it a guy coming here from Sydney, who completed quarantine and then went home to Devonport?

But if he completed his stay in MIQ (presumably he would have tested negative after the 14 days or whatever it is), how could he have suddenly tested positive afterwards? Did it sit dormant inside him until day 15 or something?
Sorry, I'm just struggling a bit to see how it got into the community in the first place.

till today nobody knows.

we genomically link it to an MIQ person. but nobody knows if that is actually whom, and if so how it passed to the community.

my wild guess says it passed down a few chains who were asymptomatic and only after a few chains of transmission before someone had symptom and got tested. by then a few clusters were already formed.

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