2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2800530 25-Oct-2021 00:37

Under-reporting of deaths limits our understanding of true burden of covid-19
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2239

Some huge under-reporting from some countries, with just a few % deaths reported.
Edit due to BBcode table fail and replace with image.

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#2800566 25-Oct-2021 08:07

mattwnz:
rugrat:

Why are they allowing people to travel to the S.I. when the traffic light system is not ready to go????

Most people I’ve spoken with are not interested in lockdowns when every precaution is not being taken to keep the risk down of it coming to S.I.

I had contact with a few people who were in Blenheim couple days ago, here’s hoping it is not spreading.

Or why are people allowed to cross the border without being vaccinated, including essential workers. People have now had enough time. It increases the risk to all NZers.

Isn't Rotorua Level 2 and SI Level 2? Whats the difference travelling from Rotorua to Blenheim, or Rotorua to Kapiti or Christchurch to Dunedin?

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#2800583 25-Oct-2021 08:42

Theoretically, no difference. However I'd have had a ban on non-essential inter-island travel in place on a precautionary basis to protect the disease free Mainland.

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#2800587 25-Oct-2021 08:53

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/covid-19-delta-outbreak-sir-david-skegg-warned-about-a-delta-outbreak/QPJIXOCMV45RDGQ66YUZNWXMNI/

(sorry no summary, paywall)

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#2800591 25-Oct-2021 09:25

325,000 get booster in 1 day in UK https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/oct/24/coronavirus-live-uk-travel-rules-lateral-flow-test-covid-latest-updates-boris-johnson-plan-b

google says UK has a smaller size in km2 than NZ!

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#2800612 25-Oct-2021 09:39

Victoria opening up 25 Nov, NSW 1 Dec https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/australia-covid-news-live-nsw-could-ditch-rules-early-after-major-victoria-announcement/news-story/fb1e584335b16096cb2aabc4031bcb20

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#2800749 25-Oct-2021 13:48

"Sir Dave Dobbyn reveals vaccination views"

Thank heaven! At last. I've been on tenterhooks. Why did he wait so long. Stunning and brave. Etc

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#2800751 25-Oct-2021 13:57

Geektastic: "Sir Dave Dobbyn reveals vaccination views"

Thank heaven! At last. I've been on tenterhooks. Why did he wait so long. Stunning and brave. Etc

Yeah, I believe thousands of vac-relucters have been waiting, like you, for him to come out and make his call. Now they'll all flock to the jab-centre. Job's a good 'un.

Seriously though, the more that well-known people lend support like this, the better. Doesn't do any harm - it's only the silly way it's reported that gets up the nose.

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#2800811 25-Oct-2021 14:05

Regarding Auckland vaccination requiring all 3 dhbs to hit 90%.

How about open 2/3 of the city where the dhbs have hit over 90% and keep the other one locked down, it will get it over 90% guaranteed

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#2800813 25-Oct-2021 14:07

Batman: Regarding Auckland vaccination requiring all 3 dhbs to hit 90%.

How about open 2/3 of the city where the dhbs have hit over 90% and keep the other one locked down, it will get it over 90% guaranteed

Doesn't work in Auckland - decade of housing issues means many Aucklanders now mega-commute from all over the district. Also, the South has our supermarket DCs, courier logistics depots, etc. We can't lock down the CMDHB district without severely disrupting the rest of the city.

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#2800874 25-Oct-2021 14:36

Batman: Regarding Auckland vaccination requiring all 3 dhbs to hit 90%.

How about open 2/3 of the city where the dhbs have hit over 90% and keep the other one locked down, it will get it over 90% guaranteed

Suburb based lockdowns won't work, tried and failed in London and Sydney. Our region based lockdowns are only just holding out but I doubt for longer.

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#2800884 25-Oct-2021 15:07

109 cases today. So much for things trending downwards :(

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#2800896 25-Oct-2021 15:38

quickymart:
109 cases today. So much for things trending downwards :(

Historically, the numbers are always lower over a weekend too - be interesting to see what Wednesday looks like...

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#2800905 25-Oct-2021 15:58

MikeB4:
Batman: Regarding Auckland vaccination requiring all 3 dhbs to hit 90%.

How about open 2/3 of the city where the dhbs have hit over 90% and keep the other one locked down, it will get it over 90% guaranteed

Suburb based lockdowns won't work, tried and failed in London and Sydney. Our region based lockdowns are only just holding out but I doubt for longer.

they don't work for eliminating or even containing covid,

but they sure worked for NSW and Victoria for getting the vaccination rates up.

as soon as freedom is used as a carrot and stick people seem to go and get vaccinated.

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#2800907 25-Oct-2021 16:00

GV27:

Batman: Regarding Auckland vaccination requiring all 3 dhbs to hit 90%.

How about open 2/3 of the city where the dhbs have hit over 90% and keep the other one locked down, it will get it over 90% guaranteed

Doesn't work in Auckland - decade of housing issues means many Aucklanders now mega-commute from all over the district. Also, the South has our supermarket DCs, courier logistics depots, etc. We can't lock down the CMDHB district without severely disrupting the rest of the city.

i've always been taught growing up - when there's a will there's a way. just lock it down, open up the others, deal with the logistics later, and what do you know, people who can't go out would suddenly get the urge to get vaccinated!

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