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#2695324 20-Apr-2021 15:33

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I'm about 190cm tall. ~160kg is too much. According to BMI stats, I should be about 85-87 (I think I'd be a stick at that weight, I'd like to be about 98, just to see two digits on the scales).

I've been about 86kg before, and it was a good weight for me. Apparently I could be as low as 69kg and still be healthy according to BMI, but I'd be way too thin at that weight.

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#2695368 20-Apr-2021 16:42

I went from around (6'4") 165kg to 118kg a few years ago using VLCD, which is effectively the same approach as keto but in a different package, so that I could get a hernia repair operation. Since February last year I've been sitting inside all day every day working on COVID things and have slowly but surely expanded over that time. It's annoying, but I have the tools to fix it. I'm very keen to get back to a baseline of health and wellbeing over the rest of this year. Maybe we need a little Geekzone challenge or keto club to keep each other honest!

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#2695396 20-Apr-2021 18:49

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My natural pattern is to often skip breakfast and lunch, effectively putting me on a 19/5 diet by default. But I just ate high carb sh*t all night (chips and chocolate, plus dinner) and got fat.

I'm unlikely to stay on strict keto forever, and if I make as far as reaching my target the plan is to start adding more carbs back in to try to maintain a good weight with a more balanced diet. The fasting I'm doing seems like it could be perfectly manageable long-term though.

I have a mate whose been on and off diets for the 20 years I've known him. 105kg one day aiming for 82 another. Nothing has changed. One period its steamed broccoli and chicken every night, then its juiced stuff every meal, it never stops. It still hasn't.

I used to be 83kg. Then 86, all good, but I got to 98, but usually 97. Unlike my mate, no expensive gym every 6am, no silly diets. I reduced snacks. I still have snacks, just reduced. If I do, its often crackers cheese and tomatoes with Masterfoods stuff. Im not a KFC etc fiend, but I know have that infrequently. Main deal was reducing meal portions. Thats the biggie

But the main thing is you can probably say I was and are on a diet, but I'm not. No stress, no cravings, no sacrifices. Its just a reduction of stuff. From 98 necked, its now 90.5 wearing shorts and T shirt, underwear, socks. Its slow, BUT its sustainable. It's easy.

Diets are work, daily reduction isn't

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#2695398 20-Apr-2021 18:55

Paul1977:

That's bloody good going, well done. My starting weight was 111kg (heaviest I've ever been), and hoping to get to 85-86kg. I'd like to average 1kg a week, but that might be wishful thinking.

If its no weight loss thats a win, as it's no weight gain. My weight loss as per my post was way less than 0.5 kg a week, but who cares. The trend matters, and thats slowly down. I respect anyone that goes on a diet, hardcore or not, but I feel that to be sustainable it has to be easy, and for me thats been an easy but clear, reduction in portions and snacks. But I don't forego anything.

Best of luck.

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#2695417 20-Apr-2021 19:47

tdgeek:

Paul1977:

My natural pattern is to often skip breakfast and lunch, effectively putting me on a 19/5 diet by default. But I just ate high carb sh*t all night (chips and chocolate, plus dinner) and got fat.

I'm unlikely to stay on strict keto forever, and if I make as far as reaching my target the plan is to start adding more carbs back in to try to maintain a good weight with a more balanced diet. The fasting I'm doing seems like it could be perfectly manageable long-term though.

I have a mate whose been on and off diets for the 20 years I've known him. 105kg one day aiming for 82 another. Nothing has changed. One period its steamed broccoli and chicken every night, then its juiced stuff every meal, it never stops. It still hasn't.

I used to be 83kg. Then 86, all good, but I got to 98, but usually 97. Unlike my mate, no expensive gym every 6am, no silly diets. I reduced snacks. I still have snacks, just reduced. If I do, its often crackers cheese and tomatoes with Masterfoods stuff. Im not a KFC etc fiend, but I know have that infrequently. Main deal was reducing meal portions. Thats the biggie

But the main thing is you can probably say I was and are on a diet, but I'm not. No stress, no cravings, no sacrifices. Its just a reduction of stuff. From 98 necked, its now 90.5 wearing shorts and T shirt, underwear, socks. Its slow, BUT its sustainable. It's easy.

Diets are work, daily reduction isn't

Too right. No matter which diet, lifestyle or whatever you subscribe to, it's always going to boil down to the same thing - calories in, calories out. If you eat less, you will lose weight, it really is that simple. You don't need to exercise at all.

I found the most effective thing for me was to log everything I ate in MyFitnessPal, as it made me a lot more conscious about what and how much I was eating.

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#2695471 20-Apr-2021 22:10

A friend of mine has been doing one six hour eating window, eat whatever you like as much as you like. Zero outside that window. Seems to be working well and I've been meaning to start um but it's surprisingly hard to get started with my existing habits. I'm starting to think 90% raw might be easier for me as I've done it before. Not counting the occasional unavoidable social meal.

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#2699336 28-Apr-2021 21:20

I started keto back in August 2018. I got back from Hawaii and I was the biggest I ever weighed in at (93KG).

Did keto and lost about 8-9Kgs. I thought I knew what I was doing, but I would usually start a week off well, MON/TUE/WED then the weekend comes and I drank alcohol. I was telling myself ah I can manage a few beers etc but it really made my weight loss quite stagnant. In about April 2019 I joined the gym and started religiously going to classes and weight training.

In september I started fasting as well. I started out doing 16h fasts and having an 8 hour eating window. But pushing that window a little further gave me a lot more results. Ended up averaging 18/6 or 20/4 depending on the day.

I eventually made it to about 77Kgs and I was deadlifting about 2.1x my B/W. Then I wanted to start building some muscle, so I started eating clean carbs again. It worked quite well. Then COVID happened and I just drank a lot at home. Put a lot back on.

I did manage a marathon in November last year.... I was about 84Kg then. I am back up to about 87 now. But I am in a way better headspace, I am just eating well again and I just have time and energy for the kids.

Keto is good to lose weight, but its not necessarily a long term forever thing. It teaches you that fats are fine to eat provided you don't mix too much of them up with refined carbs. And Keto is not for everyone. But in my opinion learning to do a 16/8 fast 6 days per week is a lifestyle that will probably change your battle with weight. If you can get used to it, then its probably the best medicine.

The absolute best book I read was this:
https://www.amazon.com/Obesity-Code-Unlocking-Secrets-Weight/dp/1536682187

He explains it all so well. And long story short we are eating too much food. Our portion sizes play a massive role...

The longest fast I did was 4 days. At the end of the day my best advice is "Do what works for you" and stick with it and trust the process.

I eat way more Fruit & Vegetables now, I drink a LOT less. And all in all I feel a lot better.

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#2699339 28-Apr-2021 21:34

@Asrafrate started a Keto discussion a month or so ago. Might have something to add.

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#2699348 28-Apr-2021 23:00

The thing I can't get my head around is not eating for that period of time. How do you get through it? I feel like my brain stops working without food input.

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#2699349 28-Apr-2021 23:14

You ever forgotten to have breakfast, and still made it through to lunchtime? That's already 18 hours from a dinner at 6. The beauty about the intermittent fasting thing is it is quite attainable by just pushing a couple of hours of not eating from what you're used to. That is what makes it so sustainable.

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#2699405 29-Apr-2021 06:34

My family practices IF. Generally, we skip breakfast, sometimes lunch. My sixteen-year-old was starting to get chubby and it's been a game-changer for her. The whole 'breakfast is the most important meal of the day' thing is a con.

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#2699440 29-Apr-2021 09:28

As we're currently in Ramadan, I'm fasting during daylight, roughly 12 hours at this time. When you know that you can't have food, any hunger quickly passes. It's probably like not being able to smoke on a plane. When you know you can't, it makes it easier to resist.

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#2699449 29-Apr-2021 09:59

gzt: The thing I can't get my head around is not eating for that period of time. How do you get through it? I feel like my brain stops working without food input.

Try not to fixate on it, just get own with your day and keep your mind occupied.

Also, try learn to enjoy the 'new' sensation of being just a little bit hungry for a few hours.

And your body learns over time, so it gets easier.

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#2699461 29-Apr-2021 10:40

Gurezaemon:

You ever forgotten to have breakfast, and still made it through to lunchtime? That's already 18 hours from a dinner at 6. The beauty about the intermittent fasting thing is it is quite attainable by just pushing a couple of hours of not eating from what you're used to. That is what makes it so sustainable.

Also good if you can put sleep inbetween, that's an easy way of knocking off 8ish hours of fasting.

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#2700234 30-Apr-2021 19:46

dafman:
gzt: The thing I can't get my head around is not eating for that period of time. How do you get through it? I feel like my brain stops working without food input.
Try not to fixate on it, just get own with your day and keep your mind occupied. Also, try learn to enjoy the 'new' sensation of being just a little bit hungry for a few hours. And your body learns over time, so it gets easier.

This worked for me a couple of days In a row, five hours without eating. Amazing. In retrospect I think maybe eating all the time was essential at some point during the last few years and now it's not needed every day and just a habit. Amazed.

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