2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2446320 25-Mar-2020 14:32

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I would have thought you'd be less likely to put your face to the floor.

Yes - but you're very likely to use your hands to take your shoes off, and those shoes would be very likely to be contaminated with droplets.

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#2446323 25-Mar-2020 14:37

According to the PMs speech, the epidemic notice is now in place for three months. Also no other country has moved to lockdown stage without a death yet. Also this is only the second time a state of national emergency and declared, the first being the 2011 Chch earthquake.

I can still see builders in building sites today. I could understand if they are making the building and site safe during lockdown but these are buildings closed in and at painting and fitout stage. People should be at home now as per the government's COVID 19 advert on this page. Stay Home.

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#2446324 25-Mar-2020 14:40

so 90-95% of cases are coming from the international flights

someone explain why the lockdown if the flights are continuing to come in without quarantine?

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#2446325 25-Mar-2020 14:41

NumPy:

What a quote, thought I would share: "The virus doesn't move, people move it. We stop moving, the virus stops moving, the virus dies. It's that simple."

Exactly right. Its theoretically easy to wait and let it die. But NZ has 4.8 million complications that need to cooperate. It really is a numbers game, and if you can freeze the game for a month, all the virii have then been consumed by the antibodies, and had no host to carry on the family line. Its quite easy but high populations that intermix make it REALLY hard to grab it with both hands

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#2446328 25-Mar-2020 14:45

Batman:

so 90-95% of cases are coming from the international flights

someone explain why the lockdown if the flights are continuing to come in without quarantine?

That will change.

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#2446372 25-Mar-2020 14:49

Batman:

so 90-95% of cases are coming from the international flights

someone explain why the lockdown if the flights are continuing to come in without quarantine?

PM said there are too many. And they are Kiwis we cant shut them out. I forget if she stated or implied that there will be harsher measures such as quarantine when numbers reduce. Its a known risk that we have to endure. They tested 100 one day, 8 infections. Plus what about the other few thousand? Plus the infected with no symptoms? Thats why I ignore the daily new cases that are all from planes. Are these flights being canned tonight or not do you know?

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#2446374 25-Mar-2020 14:50

Ge0rge:
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They are armed with semi-auto rifles.

In the interests of accuracy, they are in fact armed with automatic rifles - the FAMAS to be exact. Semi-automatic rifles are those which were banned in NZ from civilian ownership last year.

I cannot think of a military that uses semi-automatic rifles.

Oops! My bad. I must say that I was impressed by the three man patrols & how they moved around. The rail police were equally impressive not only with the amount of weapons they carried, the four guys I saw on the Metro were also very large!

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#2446403 25-Mar-2020 14:59

tdgeek:

Batman:

so 90-95% of cases are coming from the international flights

someone explain why the lockdown if the flights are continuing to come in without quarantine?

PM said there are too many. And they are Kiwis we cant shut them out. I forget if she stated or implied that there will be harsher measures such as quarantine when numbers reduce. Its a known risk that we have to endure. They tested 100 one day, 8 infections. Plus what about the other few thousand? Plus the infected with no symptoms? Thats why I ignore the daily new cases that are all from planes. Are these flights being canned tonight or not do you know?

There has been no announcement that international flights are banned. The number of flights will naturally (commercially) reduce as demand decreases and/or other governments ban access to their air space or transiting rights (eg Australia, Singapore, UAE) . Air NZ's own web site still states they are providing international services to a number of destinations and only some routes are suspended eg Vancouver (and even then not until 30th March) https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/travel-alerts?eventid=nGWrd6Uk8TvvDmaKSRjr

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#2446404 25-Mar-2020 14:59

Heres my prediction

a/ We stay at level 4 for a few months

b/ Incoming passengers are forced to go into a government run camp for 14 days

c/ Once we are down near zero we go back to level 3 or 2.

d/ The economy returns to more normal, but b/ still applies

e/ We stay like that until enough New Zealanders get vaccinated or a drug is found that is effective. And thats' probably 18 months at least.

The alternative is we return to normal and Jacinda says ' the economy is more important , I know this decision will cost X lives' and we just suck it up

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#2446409 25-Mar-2020 15:01

ben28:

The alternative is we return to normal and Jacinda says ' the economy is more important , I know this decision will cost X lives' and we just suck it up

Sounds like that's what Trump wants to do in the US. Will be interesting if some countries can clear it, and others cannot.

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#2446412 25-Mar-2020 15:07

Looks like incoming travellers will be put into approved facilities unless they're asymptomatic, and have a place near that port to shelter.

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#2446416 25-Mar-2020 15:10

tdgeek:
NumPy:

What a quote, thought I would share: "The virus doesn't move, people move it. We stop moving, the virus stops moving, the virus dies. It's that simple."

Exactly right. Its theoretically easy to wait and let it die. But NZ has 4.8 million complications that need to cooperate. It really is a numbers game, and if you can freeze the game for a month, all the virii have then been consumed by the antibodies, and had no host to carry on the family line. Its quite easy but high populations that intermix make it REALLY hard to grab it with both hands

The virus could spread between essential workers especially with frontline medical workers who are essentially the soldiers going to war against this virus. My understanding it is more about flattening the curve to allow the health system to cope . But the issue will be the rest of the world because even if we're manage to stamp it out in NZ by starving it off new hosts,
we can't remain isolated forever so imo the rest of the world either needs to stamp it out too, or have herd immunity. Or a vaccine. So it could mean we have 2 week quarantining of incoming visitors for a very long time and I am guessing other countries will also require this. This will mean far less travel occurring.

Stay Home, don't wait until the deadline. Do it now.

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#2446417 25-Mar-2020 15:12

steve2222:

There has been no announcement that international flights are banned. The number of flights will naturally (commercially) reduce as demand decreases and/or other governments ban access to their air space or transiting rights (eg Australia, Singapore, UAE) . Air NZ's own web site still states they are providing international services to a number of destinations and only some routes are suspended eg Vancouver (and even then not until 30th March) https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/travel-alerts?eventid=nGWrd6Uk8TvvDmaKSRjr

Thanks. The PM said something yesterday that made me feel they will be stopping, i.e. Kiwis may be too late. I must have misinterpreted that

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#2446418 25-Mar-2020 15:12

Sounds like they already know it will be longer than 4 weeks. 4 weeks is now "period of time"

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#2446419 25-Mar-2020 15:15

b/ Incoming passengers are forced to go into a government run camp for 14 days

There needs to be 14 camps, one for each day of the isolation arrivals to go to.

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