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  #2447768 27-Mar-2020 10:39
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gchiu:

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Friends are trying to go home to the US, flight on Sunday out of AKL, currently in South Island.



Have they got a death wish?  NZ is the one country that has a good chance of eradicating this virus from its shores.



It's complicated...

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  #2447774 27-Mar-2020 10:43
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As per the trends in my chart update yesterday (#2447381), based on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ USA now has most confirmed cases in the world (& still the 26th there so total to 26 March will rise a bit more).  Surpassing Italy total was near certain though it seemed touch & go whether they would go over the Chinese total.

 

Yes, the sharp rise in the US is because they have heavily increased testing.

 

But not certain that the positive approval rating for Trump's handling of the crisis will hold up once it becomes clear that the US has performed worse than any other country?  Time will tell on that. 

 

Of course, for a day or two there will be arguments about China's low count (almost certainly no more so than in the US, NZ or most other countries) but on current trends the total in the US will go over 300,000 in 4 - 5 days, and probably 500,000 several days later depending when and how quickly the lockdowns and other measure introduced start impacting the growth in confirmed cases.  (And assuming Trump does not suddenly demand that testing be confined only to hospitalised or other restricted cases).

 

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Not certain if even Trump's mob are going to be comfortable with the US having multiple times more cases than any other country.  Surely even for them, his claims about how well he has handled to crisis will have little credibility.  Many, I suspect are the type who will be quick to turn on anyone seen as a failure.  Guess will depend to some extent on how Fox News respond to this.    

 

 




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  #2447776 27-Mar-2020 10:48
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Sideface:

 

Pangolins as an intermediate host ...

 

 

 

Pangolins were suggested a few weeks ago but it looks like it's probably an animal that combined two separate viruses into what we see as SARS-CoV-2 as the Pangolin coronaviruses are missing essential "bits" to allow them to attach to the ACE2 receptor that easily.

 

 


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  #2447777 27-Mar-2020 10:51
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DarthKermit:

 

Coronavirus: Auckland man facing charges after being pulled over twice in two days

 

 

And he has been detained as well.

 

This is going to be a very stressful time for all those kids used to doing wheelies on Friday night.


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  #2447780 27-Mar-2020 10:54
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gchiu:

 

Batman:

 

Friends are trying to go home to the US, flight on Sunday out of AKL, currently in South Island.

 

 

Have they got a death wish?  NZ is the one country that has a good chance of eradicating this virus from its shores.

 

 

Yes, play the "got stuck in NZ" card and make a new life here


 
 
 

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  #2447784 27-Mar-2020 10:59
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I think although from 200,000 masks a day sound quite impressive. Without knowing how many medical and support staff that will be using them - the relative burn rate of masks per day.

 

 I managed to dig up some stats on  the numbers of Doctor and Nurses working in NZ

 

In 2018 Doctors in New Zealand = 16,292

 

31 March 2019 there were a total of 54,456 practising nurses on the New Zealand Nursing Register.

 

 

 

And we haven't even gotten into the support staff that may or may not need them...

 

 

 

So is from 200,000 a day going to be enough? What is the limit on the manufacturer they can make per day? I don't know...sounds like a lot of masks but...I'd be a little concerned. We haven't even touched the whole PPE things needed. So perhaps getting the home army at the ready....may not be a over reaction.


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  #2447788 27-Mar-2020 11:04
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Batman:

 

Just wondering if anyone knows something we don't.

 

Friends are trying to go home to the US, flight on Sunday out of AKL, currently in South Island.

 

Got a message from US embassy saying according to the NZ govt, if they are not in AKL by midnight today, they won't be able to catch the flight on Sunday. 

 

Domestic flights shutting down?

 

 

My parents was set to head back home on 10 Apr, I did some research regarding this, so yes you will not able to travel to Auckland after today, no flight, no ferry. But even you make to Auckland, you will still have to find a place for them to stay until their international flights, which will put them in a very difficult place since there will not be public transport and very few place is accepting guests(also with all international guests stay together with no protection).

 

 

 

It will be much safer for them to stay here, where barely see and interact with any people, unless your friend is staying with a lot of international travelers...


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  #2447789 27-Mar-2020 11:04
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DS248:

 

As per the trends in my chart update yesterday (#2447381), based on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ USA now has most confirmed cases in the world (& still the 26th there so total to 26 March will rise a bit more).  Surpassing Italy total was near certain though it seemed touch & go whether they would go over the Chinese total.

 

Yes, the sharp rise in the US is because they have heavily increased testing.

 

But not certain that the positive approval rating for Trump's handling of the crisis will hold up once it becomes clear that the US has performed worse than any other country?  Time will tell on that. 

 

Of course, for a day or two there will be arguments about China's low count (almost certainly no more so than in the US, NZ or most other countries) but on current trends the total in the US will go over 300,000 in 4 - 5 days, and probably 500,000 several days later depending when and how quickly the lockdowns and other measure introduced start impacting the growth in confirmed cases.  (And assuming Trump does not suddenly demand that testing be confined only to hospitalised or other restricted cases).

 

==

 

Not certain if even Trump's mob are going to be comfortable with the US having multiple times more cases than any other country.  Surely even for them, his claims about how well he has handled to crisis will have little credibility.  Many, I suspect are the type who will be quick to turn on anyone seen as a failure.  Guess will depend to some extent on how Fox News respond to this.    

 

 

 

 

Being the worst in the world at something has never stopped Americans from believing they are the best in the world at it before, I don't see why that would change now.


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  #2447790 27-Mar-2020 11:05
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Geektastic: If one able person makes one piece a day you will have one piece a day not a million. It would take one person a million days at that rate.


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  #2447793 27-Mar-2020 11:09
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Azzura:

 

I think although from 200,000 masks a day sound quite impressive. Without knowing how many medical and support staff that will be using them - the relative burn rate of masks per day.

 

 I managed to dig up some stats on  the numbers of Doctor and Nurses working in NZ

 

In 2018 Doctors in New Zealand = 16,292

 

31 March 2019 there were a total of 54,456 practising nurses on the New Zealand Nursing Register.

 

 

 

And we haven't even gotten into the support staff that may or may not need them...

 

 

 

So is from 200,000 a day going to be enough? What is the limit on the manufacturer they can make per day? I don't know...sounds like a lot of masks but...I'd be a little concerned. We haven't even touched the whole PPE things needed. So perhaps getting the home army at the ready....may not be a over reaction.

 

 

pretty sure its fine for now , 7 people in hospital is not cause to panic just yet.





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  #2447800 27-Mar-2020 11:26
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vexxxboy:

 

pretty sure its fine for now , 7 people in hospital is not cause to panic just yet.

 

 

 

 

Good to have experts here to reassure us all.


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  #2447806 27-Mar-2020 11:32
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gchiu:

 

vexxxboy:

 

pretty sure its fine for now , 7 people in hospital is not cause to panic just yet.

 

 

 

 

Good to have experts here to reassure us all.

 

 

never said i was an expert , i was just looking at the numbers , 200,000 masks to look after 7 people should be enough for the moment





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  #2447825 27-Mar-2020 11:35
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned. I blinked and missed about 200 pages. 

 

 

 

HTF did round the bays go ahead... 1000's of untraceable people all sweating together?





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  #2447845 27-Mar-2020 11:40
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gchiu:

 

vexxxboy:

 

pretty sure its fine for now , 7 people in hospital is not cause to panic just yet.

 

 

Good to have experts here to reassure us all.

 

 

Congratulations.  You win a prize for most pessimistic post of the day so far.

 

There are only 7 people under treatment for Covid-19 in hospital in NZ - or at least that was the case when MoH reported yesterday.

 

 


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