2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2459071 10-Apr-2020 18:34

vexxxboy:

God help us if this is what people consider Lockdown

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12324146

most probably not the only place like that i'd imagine.

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#2459080 10-Apr-2020 18:55

We are walking a tightrope between newly infected people and recovery in our city (here) and it looks as if we have found a kind of balance (50:50). The ICU utilization is in the lower third. It now takes months until we have passed through the population. Are you ready for the discipline and economical marathon?

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#2459085 10-Apr-2020 19:15

Quick reminder: Royal New Zealand Ballet A Midsummer Night's Dream

Friday 10 April at 7.30pm

Saturday 11 April at 1.30pm

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#2459096 10-Apr-2020 19:42

vexxxboy:
God help us if this is what people consider Lockdown

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12324146

Yet to take that photo, the person is just one of the many who shouldn't be there...

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#2459103 10-Apr-2020 20:09

Tinkerisk:

We are walking a tightrope between newly infected people and recovery in our city (here) and it looks as if we have found a kind of balance (50:50). The ICU utilization is in the lower third. It now takes months until we have passed through the population. Are you ready for the discipline and economical marathon?

do they call it herd immunity? are they utilizing the antibody passport?

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#2459105 10-Apr-2020 20:16

anyway, a trip down memory lane. i wonder if convalascent plasma therapy works whether we'd call on our mammal friends to "help" https://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/2013/08/how-horses-helped-cure-diphtheria.html https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/horse-serum

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#2459115 10-Apr-2020 20:48

Batman:

Tinkerisk:

We are walking a tightrope between newly infected people and recovery in our city (here) and it looks as if we have found a kind of balance (50:50). The ICU utilization is in the lower third. It now takes months until we have passed through the population. Are you ready for the discipline and economical marathon?

do they call it herd immunity? are they utilizing the antibody passport?

Currently the main goal is to prevent overwhelming the ICUs. I think the herd immunity will be an exit scenario for the long term or at least until vaccination is found. Antibody research is highly engaged in a local isolated small village community, were the whole virus thing has gone through in a rush. Passports haven't yet discussed but possibly part of a scenario to come. A few days ago Lufthansa headquarter has shut down it's pax transport business until end of August (up to now).

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#2459121 10-Apr-2020 21:05

Sobering. How Did the U.S. End Up with Nurses Wearing Garbage Bags?

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#2459132 10-Apr-2020 22:01

I'm sure a certain person will say that they are the best garbage bags in the world.He is probably an expert on garbage bags as well.

There is this from TV1 interview of Kiwi paramedic in New York , chilling.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/my-love-people-stronger-than-fear-kiwi-paramedic-covid-19-frontline-in-new-york-refusing-come-home

This is what we are staying home for to protect our doctors and nurses and us from this hell.
The peak that overwhelms everything like an unstoppable Tsunami .
You won't feel much like you are winning coming down the other side of that either.

Hopefully we can stay the course , stay safe , while keeping our humanity , the "be kind" bit.

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#2459161 11-Apr-2020 00:44

freitasm:

Sobering. How Did the U.S. End Up with Nurses Wearing Garbage Bags?

The same thing has happened in the UK, and these nurses have tested positive for the virus

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/coronavirus-uk-nurses-forced-to-wear-bin-bags-test-positive-2020-4?r=US&IR=T

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#2459185 11-Apr-2020 08:04

Can we cut the conspiracy theory BS? It's completely off topic and has added about a page of useless noise to this thread.

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#2459198 11-Apr-2020 09:04

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It seems likely we will go to Level 3 on April 22. That worries me and Im sure the Govt is worried also.

It worries me too. The current number of daily cases is where we were at around March 20th prior to lock down. But we're really don't know how this has spread in the last 14 days of lockdown due to the long incubation period and we don't appear to have been doing as much testing as many other countries as per World O meter.
Most badly affected countries that acted slowly appear to still be in lockdown with no indication as to how long they will stay in lockdown for. It appears in other countries social distancing may become the norm until a vaccine comes out. IMO it will be a huge mistake for the future of NZ to waste this level 4 lockdown by leaving it too early. We could end up joining those other countries with no chance of eradication if we leave to early. As we are still getting new cases after 14 days and as discussed in the media conference, there is transmission occurring inside people's bubbles. Some bubbles are large and made up of 10 or even 20 people so inside those bubbles the virus could remain active and transfer slowly between people in that bubble for a long time, which IMO may have been an error in not having a maximum bubble size. . I hope they are getting a international expert advice including those that managed the SARS outbreaks, as to when and how NZ should relax the lockdown. The tail shouldn't wag the dog. The worst thing IMO would be having to go back into lockdown in a month due to us making the error of going out of lockdown without having either eradicated it, or knowing where all the people are who have the virus. To use the Bluff wedding cluster as an example, as per the media conference today, many of those cases are spread throughout the country. While we are in lockdown it can only spread to other people in the bubble , which appears to have occurred. But once we leave lockdown it has the potential to mobilise the virus again, and we then risk a second wave which is occurring in some other countries like Singapore who were previously doing well.

There needs to be very very clear management of potential symptoms. If anyone has any potential symptoms they need to be told that they are in Level 4, contact Healthline or Doctor, get tested. The public needs to take this ownership

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#2459201 11-Apr-2020 09:11

Zepanda66:

I really hope today was just a blip but with a second death and a slight spike in cases i'm not as optimistic as others that we'll actually drop back to level 3 on the 22nd.

You refer to going from 29 to 44? It could have been going from 44 to 29. You can't look at any one day, its all about the trend. Plus, any new cases from existing clusters is expected, it doesn't represent any transmission in the community where we dont know where it came from. Cases or clusters popping up from nowhere is the main metric now

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#2459205 11-Apr-2020 09:13

and ebola is back https://www.smh.com.au/world/africa/ebola-patient-dies-in-congo-the-first-case-in-50-days-20200411-p54izd.html

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#2459217 11-Apr-2020 09:30

Maybe not the best Police idea.

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