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#2875795 27-Feb-2022 15:19

Rikkitic:
I'm terrified I may get it. I'm old and vulnerable, but what does that mean, really?

I know the feeling. I don't think I'm as old as you but I'm certainly vulnerable.

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#2875824 27-Feb-2022 17:48

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After planning for weeks to visit Wellington mid-March to catch up with Geekzone friends (including some of the Mod team) for a Whisky or four, I've just made the difficult decision not to go. Elderly parents with lung issues, and increased risks and expenses haven't helped.

You may be over-considering the risk. I don't know where you're located but assuming you can't drive but have to fly, you'll be on a plane with vaxxed, masked people with HEPA filters in the air supply and you'll be (presumably) vaxxed and masked too. In Wellington, pick up a bottle on the way and meet your friends in open air in the Botanic Gardens with free A/C provided by Wellington, check they're vaxxed and have no symptoms first. Most of the world has been dealing with the situation we're only just starting to experience for the last two years, you need to modify your life but not shut it down completely. In particular if it's affecting your mental wellbeing you need to look after that as well.

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#2875825 27-Feb-2022 17:59

@networkn:

I have a MOH PDF here. Not sure how I should post it.

take a photo of it, scan it or something like that.

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#2875851 27-Feb-2022 18:52

Jase2985:

@networkn:

I have a MOH PDF here. Not sure how I should post it.

take a photo of it, scan it or something like that.

It's over 3 pages, I'll compress it and super impose the MOH logo on it, you'll just have to take my word for the fact it's a MOH document.

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#2875853 27-Feb-2022 18:54

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I'm curious as why there's a stated high false negative rate. Is it because people aren't following the instructions correctly? I have to do them every day I go to work. I'd like to think they are reasonably accurate if done correctly.

It's a number of factors, but its around 50% accurate. If it says you have covid, you definitely do, but if it says no, you still might have it. If you are having them daily or even a couple of times a week it's accurate enough.

It's why MOH guidelines say if you are having symptoms get a RATS and if you are still having symptoms the next day have another.

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#2875855 27-Feb-2022 18:55

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#2875857 27-Feb-2022 19:11

neb:
Stu:
After planning for weeks to visit Wellington mid-March to catch up with Geekzone friends (including some of the Mod team) for a Whisky or four, I've just made the difficult decision not to go. Elderly parents with lung issues, and increased risks and expenses haven't helped.

You may be over-considering the risk. I don't know where you're located but assuming you can't drive but have to fly, you'll be on a plane with vaxxed, masked people with HEPA filters in the air supply and you'll be (presumably) vaxxed and masked too. In Wellington, pick up a bottle on the way and meet your friends in open air in the Botanic Gardens with free A/C provided by Wellington, check they're vaxxed and have no symptoms first. Most of the world has been dealing with the situation we're only just starting to experience for the last two years, you need to modify your life but not shut it down completely. In particular if it's affecting your mental wellbeing you need to look after that as well.

Or not. Omicron is very infectious. Best avoided.

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#2875862 27-Feb-2022 19:40

Im doing mad mitre10 and bunnings runs for supplies so I have things to do for when I eventually get it and am forced to stay home and isolate.

Lockdown was a waste of time because I had no materials or cash to get them so this time it will be different.

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#2875863 27-Feb-2022 20:04

neb:
Stu:
After planning for weeks to visit Wellington mid-March to catch up with Geekzone friends (including some of the Mod team) for a Whisky or four, I've just made the difficult decision not to go. Elderly parents with lung issues, and increased risks and expenses haven't helped.

You may be over-considering the risk. I don't know where you're located but assuming you can't drive but have to fly, you'll be on a plane with vaxxed, masked people with HEPA filters in the air supply and you'll be (presumably) vaxxed and masked too. In Wellington, pick up a bottle on the way and meet your friends in open air in the Botanic Gardens with free A/C provided by Wellington, check they're vaxxed and have no symptoms first. Most of the world has been dealing with the situation we're only just starting to experience for the last two years, you need to modify your life but not shut it down completely. In particular if it's affecting your mental wellbeing you need to look after that as well.

Pretty much. We’ve been dealing with Covid actively around us for 2 years in Dubai. Since vaccinations we have travelled internationally, have an active social life, play sport and the kids go to school and play sports. I work from home mostly but my wife has been in class since September 2020.

Our life is different to before Covid, we wear masks in public places / at work but we live our lives. Everyone has to make their own assessment but for most vaccinated people Covid isn’t that harmful. It can be harmful for vulnerable people or if you are unlucky but anecdotally (and in our employers) it’s very unusual now for people to get really badly sick.

It’s not a cold, if you get it you are likely to feel very unwell. It’s also not the Black Plague.

In my view do what you are comfortable doing within the rules around you and accept that others have different levels of comfort. You’ll drive yourself crazy otherwise.

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#2875865 27-Feb-2022 20:20

Handle9: We’ve been dealing with Covid actively around us for 2 years in Dubai. Since vaccinations we have travelled internationally, have an active social life, play sport and the kids go to school and play sports. I work from home mostly but my wife has been in class since September 2020.

My reasoning for starting to travel again was similar, one of the guys I work with lives in the crowded centre of Vienna, population 2+ million, they travel regularly to Germany, Italy, and Greece (work and family visits), and they have a young daughter in school. Despite this, none of them have caught it, just by following basic precautions and being sensible. If they can do that for more than two years then I can manage it for two weeks.

There's also the problem that you have to start living some sort of life again at some point, and widespread vaccination, lots of precautions, and the predominance of a less dangerous variant seem like a good time to start.

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#2875866 27-Feb-2022 20:23

People on planes don't always wear masks, particularly on Jetstar I hear. Given the daily case numbers I think caution is justified at the moment, but not fear. While some people do get quite sick or even die, we've had eight family members get Omicron overseas, seven were asymptomatic, one had mild cold symptoms. Get your jabs, take vitamin D which might help a little (article), and just be a little wary.

I've also increased my stock of hardware store things, in case I need to do anything while isolating. Pretty sure I can fix many things with what I have, including a temporary repair for a broken window (maybe - double glazed), most leaks, holes, things falling off, etc. Also keep good supplies of house painting materials.

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#2875867 27-Feb-2022 20:24

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Handle9: We’ve been dealing with Covid actively around us for 2 years in Dubai. Since vaccinations we have travelled internationally, have an active social life, play sport and the kids go to school and play sports. I work from home mostly but my wife has been in class since September 2020.

My reasoning for starting to travel again was similar, one of the guys I work with lives in the crowded centre of Vienna, population 2+ million, they travel regularly to Germany, Italy, and Greece (work and family visits), and they have a young daughter in school. Despite this, none of them have caught it, just by following basic precautions and being sensible. If they can do that for more than two years then I can manage it for two weeks.

There's also the problem that you have to start living some sort of life again at some point, and widespread vaccination, lots of precautions, and the predominance of a less dangerous variant seem like a good time to start.

Taking precautions doesn’t mean you won’t get Covid. Heaps of our friends have had it, someone else our house caught it as well. It happens.

We haven’t caught it so far but that’s luck combined with taking precautions rather than just good management on our part.

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#2875868 27-Feb-2022 20:31

Handle9: Taking precautions doesn’t mean you won’t get Covid. Heaps of our friends have had it, someone else our house caught it as well. It happens.

Sure, but the point I was making is that you shouldn't assume that travel = catch Covid, stay at home = don't catch Covid. I'm more worried about catching it from having a cup of tea with a neighbour whose son-in-law popped by for a visit two days earlier after picking up his daughter from preschool (to invent an example) than I am from being on a plane with a P99 mask in a HEPA-filtered air flow.

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#2875869 27-Feb-2022 20:32

I'm not afraid of Covid. I am worried about what it will do to my parents if/when they catch it. If I'm the one that gives it to them, I obviously won't be in any position to assist them. For now, socialising will just have to wait.

People often mistake me for an adult because of my age.

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#2875874 27-Feb-2022 21:23

neb:
Handle9: Taking precautions doesn’t mean you won’t get Covid. Heaps of our friends have had it, someone else our house caught it as well. It happens.

Sure, but the point I was making is that you shouldn't assume that travel = catch Covid, stay at home = don't catch Covid. I'm more worried about catching it from having a cup of tea with a neighbour whose son-in-law popped by for a visit two days earlier after picking up his daughter from preschool (to invent an example) than I am from being on a plane with a P99 mask in a HEPA-filtered air flow.

I generally agree. We’re wary rather than overly worried anymore. For us Covid is a part of normal life now. NZ has to go through that, at least you’ve been spared the worst of it.

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