2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2433658 6-Mar-2020 14:06

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News is now saying one of the infected people was at the Tool concert on Friday just been

I just heard from a colleague ""Our advice is the risk is very low for all other who attended that concert". Sneeze, cough, breathe, are all means to infect

It depends I Guess. Are there still mosh pits at tool concerts? There certainly was 10 years ago at Big Day out. If there are mosh pits & he was a part of it, he would

have been incredibly sweaty & transmitting the disease via his sweat. If he was sitting down, there would be a low risk of transmission.

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#2433665 6-Mar-2020 14:20

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It depends I Guess. Are there still mosh pits at tool concerts? There certainly was 10 years ago at Big Day out. If there are mosh pits & he was a part of it, he would

have been incredibly sweaty & transmitting the disease via his sweat. If he was sitting down, there would be a low risk of transmission.

Breathing? Someone said here breathing is ok its coughing and sneezing to get droplets thats the issue. Ive read online its also exhaling.

Have you ever seen a guy with a kickarse vaping machine, spewing out big clouds? If you watch a doco that has breathing in infrared, its almost the same, our exhale is a lot of stuff, and its damp.

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#2433749 6-Mar-2020 14:28

dogstar001:

It depends I Guess. Are there still mosh pits at tool concerts? There certainly was 10 years ago at Big Day out. If there are mosh pits & he was a part of it, he would

have been incredibly sweaty & transmitting the disease via his sweat. If he was sitting down, there would be a low risk of transmission.

I'm guessing we are about to discover first hand the transmissibility of this thing

"He was in the general admission standing area in the front left-hand quadrant. "

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/03/coronavirus-man-announced-with-coronavirus-attended-tool-concert.html

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#2433753 6-Mar-2020 14:37

I had read that they think it may also be possible for it to be transmitted through fecal matter, and aerosol effects. This page has more info https://www.vox.com/2020/2/20/21143785/coronavirus-covid-19-spread-transmission-how But there is so much we don't know about it and how it spreads.

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#2433763 6-Mar-2020 14:56

tdgeek:

dogstar001:

If there are mosh pits & he was a part of it, he would have been incredibly sweaty & transmitting the disease via his sweat. If he was sitting down, there would be a low risk of transmission.

If you watch a doco that has breathing in infrared, its almost the same, our exhale is a lot of stuff, and its damp.

You can't sweat out a virus. I guess someone could cough onto their own or someone else's sweaty body. Or infected saliva come into contact with a sweaty body.

And if sweat was a mechanism, I'd expect that the virus would spread faster in warm countries than cold, but the opposite seems to be true.

The WHO says transmission needs droplets. So it's not just exhaling, and not just warm or moist air. If there were droplets, they would probably be visible (when you breathe out on a cold day, what you see are droplets forming). Probably because someone could I guess spit out a few pretty much invisible droplets while they were talking.

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#2433764 6-Mar-2020 14:59

mattwnz:

I had read that they think it may also be possible for it to be transmitted through fecal matter, and aerosol effects.

It's pretty rare that I do aerial defecation, but I'll have to keep that in mind.

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#2433765 6-Mar-2020 15:03

No.5 NZ Steel. His family recently travelled from Iran, the first locally transmitted case

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#2433768 6-Mar-2020 15:08

You can't sweat out a virus. I guess someone could cough onto their own or someone else's sweaty body. Or infected saliva come into contact with a sweaty body.

And if sweat was a mechanism, I'd expect that the virus would spread faster in warm countries than cold, but the opposite seems to be true.

The WHO says transmission needs droplets. So it's not just exhaling, and not just warm or moist air. If there were droplets, they would probably be visible (when you breathe out on a cold day, what you see are droplets forming). Probably because someone could I guess spit out a few pretty much invisible droplets while they were talking.

Thats good to know, excuse my ignorance

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#2433811 6-Mar-2020 15:09

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No.5 NZ Steel. His family recently travelled from Iran, the first locally transmitted case

No, not an additional case. NZ Steel is the workplace of one of the existing announced cases,

A NZ Steel employee is one of the four Kiwis to contract coronavirus, with staff told about the confirmed case by email and in emergency meetings.

The steel manufacturer's chief executive, Gretta Stephens, told staff the company had been advised of the new case on Thursday morning.

"We are pleased to advise that the affected employee has confirmed that they are not seriously ill and are in isolation at home," Stephens wrote in an email to staff.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12314323

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#2433854 6-Mar-2020 15:16

Unprotected infection rate when intubating ill person up to 48%.

Should be done in negative pressure environment.

Some nervous intensive care consultants and anaesthetists if this gets out of hand.

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#2433857 6-Mar-2020 15:38

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/what-its-really-like-to-catch-coronavirus-first-british-victim-25-describes-how-worst-disease-he-ever-had-left-him-sweating-shivering-and-struggling-to-breathe-as-his-eyes-burned-and-bones-ached/ar-BB10MgCk?ocid=sf2

Interesting that his kitten appeared to get it and died.

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#2433861 6-Mar-2020 15:47

Handsomedan:

mattwnz:

I had read that they think it may also be possible for it to be transmitted through fecal matter, and aerosol effects.

It's pretty rare that I do aerial defecation, but I'll have to keep that in mind.

Aerial defecation - the posh name for a shart perhaps?

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#2433866 6-Mar-2020 15:55

frankv:

Interesting that his kitten appeared to get it and died.

Probably just coincidence.

I'm hating how every time something "interesting" pops up with this disease my heart skips a beat.

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#2433869 6-Mar-2020 16:03

frankv:

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/what-its-really-like-to-catch-coronavirus-first-british-victim-25-describes-how-worst-disease-he-ever-had-left-him-sweating-shivering-and-struggling-to-breathe-as-his-eyes-burned-and-bones-ached/ar-BB10MgCk?ocid=sf2

Interesting that his kitten appeared to get it and died.

He's pretty much described a textbook case of severe flu compounded by Pneumonia...

Although I did actual like that the Daily Mail ( from where this was cribbed ) actually for once had an accurate headline

"'worst disease he ever had' left him sweating, shivering, and struggling to breathe as his eyes burned and bones ached "

Given this guy was 25, it probably actually was the worst disease he had ever had..

the most interesting point to me in the story was....

"Day 1 — Monday November 25"

indicating that this thing had been floating around Wuhan for a fair while before cases went ballistic in early Feb....

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#2433870 6-Mar-2020 16:04

If something says it kills 99.9% of 'all germs', does that mean just bacteria or also viruses?

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