2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2433915 6-Mar-2020 16:29

Rikkitic:

If something says it kills 99.9% of 'all germs', does that mean just bacteria or also viruses?

Typically yes.

But given that the number of Bacteria and Viruses on earth is a BIG number, that 0.1% could still be a large number....

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#2433919 6-Mar-2020 16:40

Rikkitic: If something says it kills 99.9% of 'all germs', does that mean just bacteria or also viruses?

Remember - it's the 0.1% that kills you. 😕

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#2433922 6-Mar-2020 17:07

jonathan18:

Aerial defecation - the posh name for a shart perhaps?

That isn't what it means, the article says that 300 people during SARS, were infected, via airbourne transmission of virus-ridden feces aerosols. It goes on to say that airbourne spread happens when residue from the evaporated droplets is suspended in air, and then people breath those in. I suspect this is also why also keeping the toilet clean is very important. My concern is plane toilets which are shared with many passengers throughout a plane and handwashing.

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#2433924 6-Mar-2020 17:16

Just watched this video about it in the US, from about 30 seconds in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymdlYDTjuow

My understanding is that the seasonal flu vaccine (which doesn't appear to be available yet in NZ) won't help with this. Plus I suspect it will be restricted due to supply. I also didn't think this was just 'another flu'.

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#2433936 6-Mar-2020 18:00

mattwnz:

Just watched this video about it in the US, from about 30 seconds in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymdlYDTjuow

My understanding is that the seasonal flu vaccine (which doesn't appear to be available yet in NZ) won't help with this. Plus I suspect it will be restricted due to supply. I also didn't think this was just 'another flu'.

That's correct, a vaccine for one virus wont protect you from a different virus, that's why there is a different flu vaccine every year to protect from what they think is going to be the main flu strains each year. I think what she means when she says it may help, is if you don't have the flu diminishing your immune system, if you get corona you have a better chance at fighting it.

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#2433947 6-Mar-2020 19:09

Another important thing about flu vaccine is that seasonal flu already strains hospital resources to the limit. If covid reaches even a fraction of typical flu infection rates, then we're in deep trouble.
So get vaccinated - if not to save yourself then to save others.
A covid case is about a hundred times more likely to need hospitalisation than a flu case

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#2433955 6-Mar-2020 19:32

Microsoft employees in Seattle tests positive for coronavirus
https://www.ibtimes.co.in/microsoft-employees-seattle-test-positive-coronavirus-814596

Microsoft Seattle-area employees to work from home for next 3 weeks
https://www.geekwire.com/2020/microsofts-new-coronavirus-plan-seattle-area-employees-work-home-next-3-weeks/

It appears that a number of US west coast based tech companies are going to do something similar, at least in Seattle, but maybe elsewhere.

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#2433957 6-Mar-2020 19:39

Fred99: Another important thing about flu vaccine is that seasonal flu already strains hospital resources to the limit. If covid reaches even a fraction of typical flu infection rates, then we're in deep trouble.
So get vaccinated - if not to save yourself then to save others.
A covid case is about a hundred times more likely to need hospitalisation than a flu case

Is the seasonal flu vaccine available at the moment? My father was told he couldn't get it until about April.

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#2433958 6-Mar-2020 19:46

mattwnz:

Is the seasonal flu vaccine available at the moment? My father was told he couldn't get it until about April.

Pending dispatched order. And more ordered

Most companies are setting up for 2nd week april deployment

From 2019, the Annual Influenza Immunisation Programme will have a fixed start date of 1 April. In previous years, the programme started as soon as the influenza vaccine became available, generally by early March. The change to a fixed start date of 1 April is intended to ensure that the vaccine remains as effective as possible during the peak incidence of influenza, which in recent years has occurred in late winter.

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#2433979 6-Mar-2020 21:38

The Coronavirus Crisis Demands Progressive Governance in the US

American Prospect by David Dayen

Democrats need a much more wide-ranging economic and public-health response—and right away.

...Republicans know that they are incredibly vulnerable on these public-health spending measures. Our health system is rickety on a normal day; people dying from being poor is usually hidden from view, but the pandemic makes it visible. “You can look at it as socialized medicine, but in the face of an outbreak, a pandemic, what’s your options?” said Ted Yoho, an extreme right-wing Florida congressman, to HuffPost. An America with health care for all without high co-pays or barriers to entry, with paid sick leave for all, is an America that’s at least prepared for the current threat.

Passing these measures in the House would put Mitch McConnell and the Trump administration in a serious bind. More important, they’re the right thing to do. At worst, it sets the stage for November; at best, people get the care they need to deal with COVID-19. There’s no reason the House couldn’t pass a stimulus and public-health emergency package this week.

Obviously, ramping up public-health spending neglects supply-chain issues, both of medical professionals and the equipment they need. That’s why a briefly floated plan from the Trump administration to use a Korean War–era law to expand industrial production in the name of national security would be so critical. This would entail government taking control of the means of production to make face masks, protective gear, and probably pharmaceuticals that Chinese manufacturing snarls have made scarce (setting up those plants is probably more complicated). This would supply medical professionals with what they need to treat patients; it would also increase economic activity. Increasing staff at hospitals, perhaps through a Civilian Conservation Corps–style program, could also pull off this double whammy.

Yes, this would all cost money. It’s more than worth it to save human life, as well as the widespread suffering caused by a pandemic-induced recession. It also makes the case that some problems require a government solution. It makes the case for the simple values of allowing everyone sick to take a day off work, and allowing everyone who needs medical treatment to get it. The coronavirus is going to roil politics in unknown ways. Those who believe in the progressive conception of government need to drive the conversation.

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#2433980 6-Mar-2020 21:39

Postings on Facebook suggesting Canterbury District Health board has just advised staff all overseas travel for work or conferences is cancelled indefinitely.

Those wanting to travel for personal reasons must discuss with their manager before travelling and if choose to travel will not be able to use sick leave if subsequently restricted in returning to work.

But also been reports that travel insurance companies wont cover Covid related costs.

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#2433983 6-Mar-2020 21:49

Alway look for the silver living :)

Maps show drastic drop in China’s air pollution after coronavirus quarantine

Restricting travel means less tailpipe emissions

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#2433984 6-Mar-2020 21:53

The Wuhan Shake Inspires Other Coronavirus-Safe Personal Greetings

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

The Late Show Center for Disease Control presents new ways for people to greet each other in the age of Coronavirus.

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#2433998 6-Mar-2020 22:13

Lets hope for a better flu vaccine effectiveness this year, was only 29% last year

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