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Topic # 233493 18-Apr-2018 13:10
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An item on RNZ today. Deciding that Kiwi's aren't getting enough bowel cancer from the crap they shovel down their throats from America's fat food giants, yet another one has decided to get rich off our craving for early death by oral overload. When I drive down the main street in Hastings, what I mainly see are wall to wall junk food palaces lining both sides. How much crap can people stuff into themselves? I guess Americans are determined to make us as absurdly overweight as they are. At the moment we are only number three in the world. We are increasing in premature death, though.

 

Talk about freedom of choice! Now you can destroy your body with fake Mexican food as well. What is left? I think every crap food outfit in that country has now invaded us. Someone should organise a march. If only they could get up from the table.

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1998522 18-Apr-2018 13:14
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Thanks to lobbying from NZ grocery group don't expect any changes.

 

And the angry white man / hoskin set , all about personal choices ( and nothing about the rest of us paying for it)

 

 

 

But freedom to choose won't extend to a joint...


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  Reply # 1998527 18-Apr-2018 13:18
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This is Tex-Mex at its worst. Had it once (taco Bell) in the States, a few days after a visit to a genuine Mexican restaurant in Las Vegas, as different as canned salmon is to fresh salmon.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1998539 18-Apr-2018 13:30
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I do have to wonder exactly why some people take such great pleasure in telling others what they can and cant do.

 

Personally I would never eat the food as it's nowhere near the realm of what I like however I do appreciate options.





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  Reply # 1998545 18-Apr-2018 13:35
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It is just like cigarette brand options. Adullts are free to smoke themselves to death, but do they really need so many poison varieties?

 

 





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  Reply # 1998550 18-Apr-2018 13:39
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Eating it is not compulsory. If people want fat/sweet/salty foods in high volumes, they will get it somewhere.  I'm not sure having another option makes a material difference.

 

The complicating factor is that we socialise the cost of morbid obesity in this country via the health system.  I don't see a solution.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1998559 18-Apr-2018 13:48
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Rikkitic:

 

It is just like cigarette brand options. Adullts are free to smoke themselves to death, but do they really need so many poison varieties?

 

 

 

 

They all taste the same anyway. Smokey.

 

You are permitted to ridicule cigarette smokers as purveys of death, and filthy dirty faggers, and no one bats an eye, but call a bunch of over weight peeps a fat bunch of over weight lardos destined for clogging up our hospitals, everyone (almost) jumps on their favourite hobby horse and gets into a frenzied froth about disrespecting big people, and overweight people dont deserve this criticism. After all, they can't help being over weight! Ya know, it's hormones, or something.

 

More like no self control.

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1998572 18-Apr-2018 13:52
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MikeAqua:

 

Eating it is not compulsory. If people want fat/sweet/salty foods in high volumes, they will get it somewhere.  I'm not sure having another option makes a material difference.

 

The complicating factor is that we socialise the cost of morbid obesity in this country via the health system.  I don't see a solution.

 

 

A solution would be to slap a big tax on the purveyors of this rubbish. If businesses want to profit from unhealthy and uninformed food choices, they can damn well shoulder some of the burden.

 

 





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  Reply # 1998592 18-Apr-2018 14:16
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Administering tax on an 'unhealthy' food would be complex.





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  Reply # 1998597 18-Apr-2018 14:22
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one of the biggest issues is this "crap" is often cheaper than healthy food.

 

Two pizzas from pizzahut is $14 which feeds 4.  Thats really hard to beat.  

 

For me its the convenience more than anything else.  I love tegal enchiladas and often full the freezer on those when theyre cheap ($9 for 5 which feeds 2.5 people, expensive at $14).   I do wish there were a more healhty fast food place, KFC should be baking the chicken for instance.  I hate KFC, my son loves it, I hate it.

 

But I do love georgie pies.




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  Reply # 1998602 18-Apr-2018 14:28
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Complex is no reason not to do it. Tobacco was complex when they were throwing money at sports sponsorship and everything else they could think of but a way was found to do it. Even though it might be difficult to distinguish in legal terms between a gourmet restaurant and a junk food craphole, anyone with common sense can immediately see the difference. It is just a matter of will. When enough people get past the short-term pleasures and the vested interests and start to take the damage seriously, things will suddenly become a lot less complex.

 

 





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  Reply # 1998622 18-Apr-2018 14:36
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Keep in mind those "Rubbish" restaurants provide great employment opportunities to school-leavers and provide a solution to time-starved people that normal restaurants or home cooked food can't provide.

 

Taxing them wouldn't result in the fix you hope for.

 

Until someone comes up with a viable big format healthy fast food option there will always be the need for such restaurants.

 

So far one of the only "healthy" fast food options is Subway, almost all other healthy options aren't scalable to the same level as their unhealthy counterparts.


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  Reply # 1998630 18-Apr-2018 14:43
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Was a taco place that opened years ago in Mangere, closed down within a year - people just werent interested. Went in one night with a couple of mates, mainly to hassle another friend working there. He said we counted for 90% of the customers that day.

 

 





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  Reply # 1998637 18-Apr-2018 14:58
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Mistenfuru:

 

Keep in mind those "Rubbish" restaurants provide great employment opportunities to school-leavers and provide a solution to time-starved people that normal restaurants or home cooked food can't provide.

 

Taxing them wouldn't result in the fix you hope for.

 

Until someone comes up with a viable big format healthy fast food option there will always be the need for such restaurants.

 

So far one of the only "healthy" fast food options is Subway, almost all other healthy options aren't scalable to the same level as their unhealthy counterparts.

 

 

Just to be clear, I don't have any problem with families who enjoy takeaway once a week. The problem is when people eat it all the time, and many do. There is a reason why we are the third-fattest nation in the world with one of the highest rates for bowel cancer. Subway isn't all that great either. They come out very poor on fat content. Try Indian some time. That is generally a better fast food option. 

 

 





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  Reply # 1998639 18-Apr-2018 15:00
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I'm not sure ... do you know how much butter, cream, salt and duck fat goes into the food that fine dining charges you hundreds of bucks for? Granted you only get small portions so I guess it is kind of healthier in that sense. Plus the wine must clean up your arteries as half the studies suggest. (BTW the other half of the studies say it kills you in one way or another).

 

Or vege oil and more vege oil, salt and butter the cafe/non fine dining restaurant (any eatery) food down the road serves.


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  Reply # 1998640 18-Apr-2018 15:02
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yet my son loves eating in them ,  he's 18 and 55kg and i would say most of the people i see eating there are not obese and know that eating there now and again isnt going to do them any harm . mind you in Rotorua 70% of the customers are tourists.


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