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#1312072 26-May-2015 14:53

3 year old NZ New Honda Jazz, can get one with super low K's and they are mighty large inside and very very good on gas

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#1312074 26-May-2015 14:57

unless you know how to fix cars. then at 10 years old they have depreciated so much they can't depreciate anymore, some may even start to appreciate due to inflation exchange rate and other things

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#1312080 26-May-2015 15:12

Honestly, your requirements are clearly laid out and easily achievable. Go on trademe, put your specs in to the motors search box and search, you will find plenty of 3 year old cars with +- 50000 on the clock. Limit it by whatever you want. 15 grand should get you something pretty nice. Spend some of yours and whatever your dad chips in and you should still have a few grand in the bank.
Not sure if this giant TM link will work, but see what it returns anyway.

My pick would be a Jazz like this simply because you can flatten out the seats and load them up like crazy, but that side is up to you. Your budget and expectations are reasonable. Just narrow it down until you find something you really like.

Heck, if you really wanted, you could buy a brand new Mirage hatch for $18000 odd and still have money left over. (Not suggesting that the Mirage is what you should buy, just to show your budget is reasonable even for a car brand new on the lot.)

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#1312139 26-May-2015 16:26

paulmilbank: Honestly, your requirements are clearly laid out and easily achievable. Go on trademe, put your specs in to the motors search box and search, you will find plenty of 3 year old cars with +- 50000 on the clock. Limit it by whatever you want. 15 grand should get you something pretty nice. Spend some of yours and whatever your dad chips in and you should still have a few grand in the bank.
Not sure if this giant TM link will work, but see what it returns anyway.

My pick would be a Jazz like this simply because you can flatten out the seats and load them up like crazy, but that side is up to you. Your budget and expectations are reasonable. Just narrow it down until you find something you really like.

Heck, if you really wanted, you could buy a brand new Mirage hatch for $18000 odd and still have money left over. (Not suggesting that the Mirage is what you should buy, just to show your budget is reasonable even for a car brand new on the lot.)

Yeah I saw that offer from Mitsubishi, $9000 now (cash or trade) and the other $9000 in 12 months time on a brand new Mirage with 10 year warranty.

I much liked the alternatives

- Burn $9000
- Spend $9000 on something other than a Mitsubishi

I digress :)

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#1312173 26-May-2015 17:14

I'd say shop around a bit too.

When looking, ask whether the engine has a timing chain or cambelt? This is more critical if the car has 60,000+ km's on it, and can save yourself a few dollars in the longer term not having to replace a cambelt.

Also, the NZ motorists obsession with the high riding SUV\CUV\Crossover things keeps the price of them inflated, but also has an affect on the price of the midsize sedan market (Mondeo's Accord's, Camry's etc) as there are less of these around because of people buying the SUV instead, keeping the price of those sedans that are around higher.

If your coming from a Honda and like the Honda's know that the Civic Euro hatch and Accord Euro sedan drink the more expensive 95 octane juice, whereas the Civic Sedan and some of the earlier Accord Euro's run on 91 octane.

That's just my 2cents worth anyway.

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#1312184 26-May-2015 17:35

Having just been though this I would start here:

Ex-lease: AutoSelect (nationwide I think).

Anything else used: Wholesale Cars Direct (in Wellington, but you have to walk in - they really have a big selection of cars hidden away that are not listed anywhere).

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#1312241 26-May-2015 20:11

heylinb4nz:
paulmilbank: Honestly, your requirements are clearly laid out and easily achievable. Go on trademe, put your specs in to the motors search box and search, you will find plenty of 3 year old cars with +- 50000 on the clock. Limit it by whatever you want. 15 grand should get you something pretty nice. Spend some of yours and whatever your dad chips in and you should still have a few grand in the bank.
Not sure if this giant TM link will work, but see what it returns anyway.

My pick would be a Jazz like this simply because you can flatten out the seats and load them up like crazy, but that side is up to you. Your budget and expectations are reasonable. Just narrow it down until you find something you really like.

Heck, if you really wanted, you could buy a brand new Mirage hatch for $18000 odd and still have money left over. (Not suggesting that the Mirage is what you should buy, just to show your budget is reasonable even for a car brand new on the lot.)

Yeah I saw that offer from Mitsubishi, $9000 now (cash or trade) and the other $9000 in 12 months time on a brand new Mirage with 10 year warranty.

I much liked the alternatives

- Burn $9000
- Spend $9000 on something other than a Mitsubishi

I digress :)

has anyone actually had a mitsi with a 10 year warranty? Is the warranty and good?

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#1312279 26-May-2015 20:48

you MUST service at the dealer every SIX months. $$$ ! but the 10 year is the drive train isn't it? everything else only 5 years? or is gthe mirage a 1 off special?

and i don't think you can transfer it more than once. ie third owner doesn't get it.

i might be wrong, been a while since i looked at mitsis

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#1312377 26-May-2015 23:49

See if you can find something around the 2 year old mark, which still has a year warranty on it. Maybe a private seller on trademe maybe selling something. My brother got a civic for 40% off the retail buying privately, and it was only 2 years old. The seller had a big loan on it and wanted to get out of it.

Maybe look at the mazda 2, which is a good vehicle. Not as nice to drive as the mazda 3, but around 10k less on price. You haven't really told us your requirements, as there are a lot of small cars on the market. Even the Toyota Yaris isn't a bad shopping basket.

I also like the toyota 86. However no toyota dealers were able to get one in for a test drive, so unless you can test drive one they are not really an option. It has a sister made by Subaru, which is essentially the same car. Not very fuel efficient though compared to todays small cars, and not much room either.

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#1312378 26-May-2015 23:52

joker97: you MUST service at the dealer every SIX months. $$$ ! but the 10 year is the drive train isn't it? everything else only 5 years? or is gthe mirage a 1 off special?

and i don't think you can transfer it more than once. ie third owner doesn't get it.

i might be wrong, been a while since i looked at mitsis

That is one of the things about the mazda 3's, it needs servicing every 6 months according to the manual, although I believe you do get 5 years of servicing with it. I have always been used to cars only needing servicing every 12 months.

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#1312379 26-May-2015 23:54

Jase2985: 3 year old NZ New Honda Jazz, can get one with super low K's and they are mighty large inside and very very good on gas

I would agree, in terms of a safe conservative option. But you see so many of the blue ones around, and they are often driven by people in the 70's+. So that alone is enough to put me off. They are also just a box, so no design imagination has been put into them. Honda seems to have slipped behind in technology, compared to Mazda and Hyundai/Kia.

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#1312425 27-May-2015 06:02

The RS version is suprisingly tollerable and can take quite a bit of stuff.

Rubbish integrated stereo and when I looked couldnt see any dash kits available to put something not junk in.

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#1312469 27-May-2015 09:11

mattwnz: See if you can find something around the 2 year old mark, which still has a year warranty on it. Maybe a private seller on trademe maybe selling something. My brother got a civic for 40% off the retail buying privately, and it was only 2 years old. The seller had a big loan on it and wanted to get out of it. Maybe look at the mazda 2, which is a good vehicle. Not as nice to drive as the mazda 3, but around 10k less on price. You haven't really told us your requirements, as there are a lot of small cars on the market. Even the Toyota Yaris isn't a bad shopping basket.

I also like the toyota 86. However no toyota dealers were able to get one in for a test drive, so unless you can test drive one they are not really an option. It has a sister made by Subaru, which is essentially the same car. Not very fuel efficient though compared to todays small cars, and not much room either.

I don't think Toyota are aiming for the fuel efficient / interior space market with the 86. Having said that, they are notably more efficient than a small SUV such as a CRV and I'm seriously considering one for my daily driving next year. I haven't test driven yet, but they are available from Avis and Budget so a weekend's hire might be a good test drive

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#1312522 27-May-2015 10:23

wasabi2k:
Alternatively - ex lease. They seem to be relatively cheap, well maintained (as they are usually dealer serviced) and in most cases well looked after.

If those ex lease are pre-owned by Auckland CBD companies - be assured they would have panelbeating work done on them more than once. Just look at the pillars inside CBD garages "painted" in all sorts of color - it will give you an idea.
ODO will be over 100K in many cases especially when those are operational cars.
In one particular company who's garage is on Symonds street - ALL cars hit those garage pillars, some more than twice.

So, "well looked after" is a myth..

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#1312532 27-May-2015 10:32

Quite interested in this thread, as we're in a similar place as the OP.

Currently considering an ex-lease 2013 Mondeo. These seem very easy to get for under $20K, with less than 50K KMs on the clock. They seem like quite a popular car. Is this popularity justified?

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