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#2341496 21-Oct-2019 20:01

DS248:

"Volkswagen says the car will be completely carbon-neutral at the point of delivery ... the car will release no carbon dioxide excess during the manufacturing process"

Cool, so VW have cracked how to smelt steel without coal on a large scale..... :)

I mean really what does " no carbon dioxide excess" actually mean, I suspect it means they offset emission they cannot eliminate which is admirable, but not novel

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#2341498 21-Oct-2019 20:14

wellygary:\

I mean really what does " no carbon dioxide excess" actually mean

Maybe they mean no CO2 in excess of what it would take to make a non-ev car of a similar size?

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#2341522 21-Oct-2019 21:49

MarkH67: Maybe they mean no CO2 in excess of what it would take to make a non-ev car of a similar size?

That would barely qualify as 'carbon-neutral'. I imagine it is offsetting by some means, which of course is not novel. But maybe better than not doing so? I imagine this is mainly to counter claims that EV production has a larger carbon footprint than ICE car production. (Or maybe they have developed a new carbon battery technology? 😁)

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#2341656 22-Oct-2019 09:38

Hi,

Re: Type 2 EV Charging cables.

Apart from questionable quality goods on AliExpress and offerings of the same goods by local re-sellers and apart from offers @ exorbitant prices on nz.element14.com does anyone come across high quality Type 2 cables and Plugs at reasonable prices?

I am looking to source High quality Type 2 to Type 2 cable, or just pair of high quality Type 2 mating plugs. Reluctant to pay $500 for the cable and not going to pay $200 for "made in PRC" stuff. Pictured is $500 cable.

Also need quality Type 2 Plug which connects to the car.

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#2341721 22-Oct-2019 11:53

I got a 32amp T2 to T2 5 metre cable from ecogeek.co.nz. It looks pretty good to me. :-)

This one.

The Tesla Model 3 comes with its own wall charger, but I also want to be able to use it with my 32amp ROLEC Wallpod and also at 11kw with the various 3-phase AC Type 2 EV charging facilities around the country (The Warehouse, Orion, most ABB-made fast chargers).

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#2341735 22-Oct-2019 12:29

DS248:

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1192890/volkswagen-id-3-electric-car-most-popular-car-uk-sales

"Volkswagen says the car will be completely carbon-neutral at the point of delivery ... the car will release no carbon dioxide excess during the manufacturing process"

"... also claims their new electric car can travel up to 342 miles based on WLTP estimates ..."

"Sales have hit the roof since the car was first revealed in May, with a massive 10,000 pre-orders placed within the first 24 hours.
A further 30,000 pre-orders were taken up until September where the car made its world debut at the 2019 Frankfurt Motor Show"

I would not have thought the car would release any excess of any kind during the manufacturing process.

The factory might...

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#2341859 22-Oct-2019 14:29

Linuxluver:

I got a 32amp T2 to T2 5 metre cable from ecogeek.co.nz. It looks pretty good to me. :-)

This one.

The Tesla Model 3 comes with its own wall charger, but I also want to be able to use it with my 32amp ROLEC Wallpod and also at 11kw with the various 3-phase AC Type 2 EV charging facilities around the country (The Warehouse, Orion, most ABB-made fast chargers).

I bought a Type 2 to Type 2 cable from Tesla 7.5 meters for $340.

MENNEKES TYPE 2 , 3 PHASE, 32 AMP ADAPTER - 7.5M
Part Number - (1039810-00-A)

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#2341878 22-Oct-2019 14:56

Geektastic:

DS248:

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1192890/volkswagen-id-3-electric-car-most-popular-car-uk-sales

"Volkswagen says the car will be completely carbon-neutral at the point of delivery ... the car will release no carbon dioxide excess during the manufacturing process"

"... also claims their new electric car can travel up to 342 miles based on WLTP estimates ..."

"Sales have hit the roof since the car was first revealed in May, with a massive 10,000 pre-orders placed within the first 24 hours.
A further 30,000 pre-orders were taken up until September where the car made its world debut at the 2019 Frankfurt Motor Show"

I would not have thought the car would release any excess of any kind during the manufacturing process.

The factory might...

VW revealed themselves as serial liars during diesel gate. I'd take any VW claim with a very large pinch of salt.

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#2341914 22-Oct-2019 16:48

maxeon:

Linuxluver:

I got a 32amp T2 to T2 5 metre cable from ecogeek.co.nz. It looks pretty good to me. :-)

This one.

The Tesla Model 3 comes with its own wall charger, but I also want to be able to use it with my 32amp ROLEC Wallpod and also at 11kw with the various 3-phase AC Type 2 EV charging facilities around the country (The Warehouse, Orion, most ABB-made fast chargers).

I bought a Type 2 to Type 2 cable from Tesla 7.5 meters for $340.

MENNEKES TYPE 2 , 3 PHASE, 32 AMP ADAPTER - 7.5M
Part Number - (1039810-00-A)

I do not need 32A, 3 Phase. I am after 1 Phase. 16A would be OK. 32A excess to requirements.

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#2341939 22-Oct-2019 17:58

@Ruki
But $340 is a decent chunk less than $500 and you wanted a ‘quality’ provider so a Tesla one should fit both of YOUR criteria anyway?

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#2342467 23-Oct-2019 14:15

I think all you will find is 32A as the supplier has to allow for the fact that you could plug it into a 32A supply even if you don't intend to.

I got a type 2 to type 1 off a seller called jpk on trademe and am very happy with it. There are several listed there from other sellers starting around $240

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#2342561 23-Oct-2019 18:14

Isn't 16A one phase otherwise known as a caravan plug...

A 32A can connect at lesser amps without issue but not the reverse.

As 32A sockets at destinations continue to expand you might regret limiting yourself to 16A in future.

Regarding cable costs.
You get what you pay for and quibling over a couple of hundred extra dollars to connect a car worth tens of thousands of dollars seems to be temping fate somewhat.

We aren't talking about hdmi cables to your tv

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#2342595 23-Oct-2019 20:10

afe66: Isn't 16A one phase otherwise known as a caravan plug...

No. @RUKI is after a Type 2 charging cable that is normally used between a vehicle and a fixed EVSE. The number of conductors varies with the number of phases, and current rating will vary with conductor area.

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#2342908 24-Oct-2019 11:06

I was being slightly tongue in cheek with reference to 16A being a caravan plug cable but I was trying to infer that 16A is old and outdated.

Why limit yourself to 16A for sake of few dollars if your car can take 32A

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#2342998 24-Oct-2019 13:08

Tesla's 'jaw dropper' profit surprises people expecting a loss in the third quarter

Tesla posted a surprising profit of US$143 million (NZ$222 million) in its latest quarter, raising hopes the electric car pioneer may finally be turning the corner after posting mostly losses during its first decade as a publicly held company.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/116873689/teslas-jaw-dropper-profit-surprises-people-expecting-a-loss-in-the-third-quarter

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