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#2729058 15-Jun-2021 12:13

Batman: Someone go ask their dealer to find out...

It's not really the dealer you need to ask but Waka Kotahi. They're the ones that giving out the rebate and defining the qualifying criteria

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#2729067 15-Jun-2021 12:24

Waka who?!

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#2729068 15-Jun-2021 12:26

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#2729070 15-Jun-2021 12:31

Dealers will happily and separately invoice you for accessories separate to the VOSA amount, I'd assume.

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#2729098 15-Jun-2021 13:22

GV27:
Dealers will happily and separately invoice you for accessories separate to the VOSA amount, I'd assume.

Yes that's my guess.

The trade in loophole though...

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#2729113 15-Jun-2021 13:51

anyone self imported a used Leaf or similar recently? (after pandemic started)

how much did it cost? where do I start researching how to do this?

My use case is something like 100km two ways on the weekend, little to no use during the week

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#2729121 15-Jun-2021 14:11

Batman: Waka who?!

This is the problem with this government department renames. Firstly many people don't know what they are which is not great for accessibility. Also they sound like the name of a person. Surprised the media hasn't run a poll on the street asking passersby which government departments each name means.

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#2729130 15-Jun-2021 14:30

Coon:

anyone self imported a used Leaf or similar recently? (after pandemic started)

how much did it cost? where do I start researching how to do this?

My use case is something like 100km two ways on the weekend, little to no use during the week

Privately importing an EV could be problematic as I believe they are in short supply in Japan and the feebate scheme is likely to exacerbate that situation due to increased demand. Also by buying from a reputable importer/dealer you have a better chance of ensuring an EV has a reliable battery SOH report.

Regarding your intended use do you mean 100km each way or for the return journey? If each way you will need to charge at your destination as earlier Leafs in particular aren't capable of a 200km round trip on a single charge.

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#2729137 15-Jun-2021 15:05

mattwnz:

Batman: Waka who?!

This is the problem with this government department renames. Firstly many people don't know what they are which is not great for accessibility. Also they sound like the name of a person. Surprised the media hasn't run a poll on the street asking passersby which government departments each name means.

Coming at this only from a practical perspective, previously Māori names were added under the English version, so both of the official written languages were covered.
I'm not worried which comes first, or which is the most common name etc, but we're seeing a move to just one name being referenced now and that leads to the confusion you're describing above.

I'd prefer to see it referenced as Waka Kotahi/NZ Transport Agency when used in print.

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#2729141 15-Jun-2021 15:16

Jaxson:

Coming at this only from a practical perspective, previously Māori names were added under the English version, so both of the official written languages were covered.
I'm not worried which comes first, or which is the most common name etc, but we're seeing a move to just one name being referenced now and that leads to the confusion you're describing above.

I'd prefer to see it referenced as Waka Kotahi/NZ Transport Agency when used in print.

I agree. I support the dual use of names. In this example I didnt know what it was, I assumed it was a working group that they gave a Maori name, all good. No idea it was NZTA, and I can guarantee you, they knew that few would know it was but felt no need to educate anyone.

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#2729148 15-Jun-2021 15:27

Let's go back to EV news - you are welcome to create a topic about government use of English and Te reo Māori in the Politics sub-forum.

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#2729166 15-Jun-2021 15:52

debo: Hi, I apologise if this question has already been answered.

Does the charging efficiency of an old EV battery go down as well as its capacity?

I'm quite sure my now 68% SOH Leaf battery fast charges more slowly than it used to. Kicked in somewhere between 70-75%. What used to take me 5 minutes now takes 10 or more.

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#2729235 15-Jun-2021 16:26

I do wonder why EVs don't have Photovoltaic generation on the roof and bonnet, to trickle charge the battery when driving and when parked during the day. Some may already do this, I don't know, but PVs are becoming more and more efficient. Teslas have a glass roof, which prevents that as an option. Will also reduce the load on our power generation

I wonder if in teh coming years or decade we will find out that we don't have enough power generation to cope with moving all our vehicle fleet to electricity without some big investment in generation, creating an electricity crisis and huge increases in prices due to supply and demand? Will it be another case of 'Ambulance and the bottom of the cliff'. I will be ironic if we have to fire up emergency generation, using fossil fuels to then power EVs.

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#2729238 15-Jun-2021 16:41

mattwnz:

I do wonder why EVs don't have Photovoltaic generation on the roof and bonnet, to trickle charge the battery when driving and when parked during the day. Some may already do this, I don't know, but PVs are becoming more and more efficient. Teslas have a glass roof, which prevents that as an option.

That idea has been adopted but there are definite limitations on the generating capacity.

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#2729239 15-Jun-2021 16:41

mattwnz:

I do wonder why EVs don't have Photovoltaic generation on the roof and bonnet, to trickle charge the battery when driving and when parked during the day. Some may already do this, I don't know, but PVs are becoming more and more efficient. Teslas have a glass roof, which prevents that as an option. Will also reduce the load on our power generation

I wonder if in teh coming years or decade we will find out that we don't have enough power generation to cope with moving all our vehicle fleet to electricity without some big investment in generation, creating an electricity crisis and huge increases in prices due to supply and demand? Will it be another case of 'Ambulance and the bottom of the cliff'. I will be ironic if we have to fire up emergency generation, using fossil fuels to then power EVs.

Most EVs currently don't have solar because the amount they'd gain wouldn't really outweigh the losses from the extra weight

We're not going to run out of power generation.

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