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#3143113 5-Oct-2023 13:10

Can't really speak as to the UV/heat from the glass roof. I know I saw the specs somewhere (which I can't find) that said what amount of tint it is and how much UV it blocks.

It looked pretty reasonable - but what that is like in real life - I couldn't say.

Regarding range... We have had ours 3 months and the only long(ish) trip was Auckland- Tauranga and return.

Its the std range with 455km WLTP and car shows 435km when charged.

2 Adults and 2 children (and all their junk).

We covered around 230 km and it should 160km remaining when we got there (230 + 160 = 390km range).

Return trip had a diversion and was around 285km and showed a bit over 90km left when I pulled into our garage. (285+90 = 375km range).

Gavin Shoebridge on the NZ youtube ecotricity channel reckoned to take 15% off the WLTP claimed range to get a more realistic figure - So 85% of 455km is 386km - probably pretty accurate.

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#3143125 5-Oct-2023 13:45

Call me a stuck record, but I do think it's worth reiterating that providing a single figure on range is kinda meaningless in practice. I can easily get from PN to Wellington return on a single charge (a bit over 300km) but there's no way I'd achieve anything like that on a more demanding route. So what does that mean in terms of the overall range of the car?

Given the metrics that can be extracted from Teslas, it's interesting to see the huge range in consumption over different routes; while one can see the current fuel consumption in an ICE when driving, it's when looking at the detail from trips in an EV that this is truly brought home. Here's some of the data from that recent trip to Akld to illustrate:

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#3143132 5-Oct-2023 14:15

jonathan18:

Call me a stuck record, but I do think it's worth reiterating that providing a single figure on range is kinda meaningless in practice. I can easily get from PN to Wellington return on a single charge (a bit over 300km) but there's no way I'd achieve anything like that on a more demanding route. So what does that mean in terms of the overall range of the car?

Given the metrics that can be extracted from Teslas, it's interesting to see the huge range in consumption over different routes; while one can see the current fuel consumption in an ICE when driving, it's when looking at the detail from trips in an EV that this is truly brought home. Here's some of the data from that recent trip to Akld to illustrate:

I'm assuming the third column's numbers are Wh/km? Also the journeys from and to PN gain and lose significant altitude respectively, which is definitely a factor that EV owners become aware of, not in terms of performance as ICEs do but in energy demand.

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#3143182 5-Oct-2023 14:29

HarmLessSolutions:

I'm assuming the third column's numbers are Wh/km? Also the journeys from and to PN gain and lose significant altitude respectively, which is definitely a factor that EV owners become aware of, not in terms of performance as ICEs do but in energy demand.

Yep, Wh/km - sorry, should have labelled the columns!

Yeah, I think EV drivers become much more attuned to all the variables that impact efficiency - the obvious ones like ambient temperature and change in altitude, but also others like wind speed/direction and rain.

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#3143184 5-Oct-2023 14:33

jonathan18:

HarmLessSolutions:

I'm assuming the third column's numbers are Wh/km? Also the journeys from and to PN gain and lose significant altitude respectively, which is definitely a factor that EV owners become aware of, not in terms of performance as ICEs do but in energy demand.

Yep, Wh/km - sorry, should have labelled the columns!

Yeah, I think EV drivers become much more attuned to all the variables that impact efficiency - the obvious ones like ambient temperature and change in altitude, but also others like wind speed/direction and rain.

I'm not familiar with the Taupo to Taihape route but ~2.5km/kWh is pretty heavy consumption.

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#3143193 5-Oct-2023 14:57

HarmLessSolutions:

I'm not familiar with the Taupo to Taihape route but ~2.5km/kWh is pretty heavy consumption.

Taupo to Taihape covers the Desert road. It's a steady climb from Taupo to the highest point on the Desert road and then into Waiouru and onwards to Taihape. It also gets quite cold and the wind can be ferociously strong. All contributors to poor ev economy. I stop in Turangi and Waiouru for a top up when I'm travelling that way in my Gen1 MG ZS ev.

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#3143197 5-Oct-2023 15:06

Taupo to Taihape State Highway 1

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#3144976 10-Oct-2023 15:52

Based on the price increase in Norway of the Model Y RWD I think there is a good chance the Model Y will increase in price by about $3000 in a not too distant future.

Pretty sure the RWD that is sold in Norway is built in Shanghai, just as the RWD model that is sold in NZ.

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#3145383 11-Oct-2023 15:26

Based on the trends in other countries that might be the case, but looking around (and myself being in the market to buy) if they were to raise prices it would dilute the value proposition and likely push potential buyers into another brand.....seems everyone is scrambling to get people into their cars right now (new models, prices dropping, etc).

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#3145399 11-Oct-2023 15:38

And the sales of Chinese produced Tesla's was down over 10%....

Tesla's China-made EV sales volume falls 10.9% year-on-year in September | Reuters

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#3147939 16-Oct-2023 07:54

Okay one final question from my wife. She suffers from migraine's and can get motion sickness, and after our test drive she felt unbalanced/head spin type stuff. We mentioned this to the sales person and he said that it is not uncommon. It does seem to be a common issue for some - my question is; does it pass? Does the brain get used to things and adjust?

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#3147952 16-Oct-2023 08:48

E3xtc:

Okay one final question from my wife. She suffers from migraine's and can get motion sickness, and after our test drive she felt unbalanced/head spin type stuff. We mentioned this to the sales person and he said that it is not uncommon. It does seem to be a common issue for some - my question is; does it pass? Does the brain get used to things and adjust?

Some people are sensitive to the effects of EMFs and the electronic workings of an EV may result in these causing ill effects in some people. There are EMF neutraliser products available which may be worth trying but some promoters of these are tending towards tin foil hat territory.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27012122/

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#3147962 16-Oct-2023 08:57

The comment from the sales person was more around the implication that the brain is adjusting to the way it accelerates/decelerates and the lack of noise etc to give the body normal queues for movement 🤷

Thanks for the thoughts/comments on the EMF products - didn't even think about that, but yeah appreciate the sentiment around whether they are snake oil or not 👍

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#3147979 16-Oct-2023 09:30

One thing you could do to minimise it is to turn off one pedal driving and use "Creep" or "Roll" mode which makes it deacceleration more like a traditional car and see if that makes a difference to the way your wife feels. Then, as you get a better feel for the car you could turn one-pedal driving back on and better control the way the car slows down with regen.

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#3147989 16-Oct-2023 09:49

E3xtc:

The comment from the sales person was more around the implication that the brain is adjusting to the way it accelerates/decelerates and the lack of noise etc to give the body normal queues for movement 🤷

Not sure how you were driving it....

Were you giving it heaps because of the novelty value maybe? (Not judging btw - that instant power feels great).

Lack of noise isn't normally known for creating headaches as far as I am aware.

They are easy enough to drive very smoothly - you just get used to the one-pedal setup and ease on/off the go pedal.

Taking your foot off the accelerator is a bit like engine braking back in the manual/petrol days.

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