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  #1295041 1-May-2015 14:01
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kiwiharry:
The no use of mobiles whilst walking on the tarmac is not purely related to refuelling risks. One of the reasons is that people tend to unconsciously walk about whilst talking on their mobile phone.


There have been multiple incidents of people walking into spinning propellers while distracted by their phone. Hence the request to leave them off until you reach the terminal.

As for seatbelts on or off in an airplane being refuelled, I can't recall any fires occurring during refuelling with passengers inside, but I can recall accidents where a taxiing aircraft has hit a plane at a gate, so I would say you're safer with seatbelt on.



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  #1295048 1-May-2015 14:14
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wasabi2k: On a more useful note: does anyone have any recommendations on good/affordable extinguishers for the car?

Will need 3 (mine, wife's, stepsons)

I see that Dry Powder is recommended - Super Cheap, Repco, Mitre 10 all have them. Anything to look for?


a 1kg dry powder with a metal bracket, and then attach it to the chassis somewhere with M8 bolts and pannel washers, its always good to have it somewhere easy to reach.

It also pays to know how to use the extinguisher, as if you dont know how to use it its next to useless.

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  #1295052 1-May-2015 14:21
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I had to re-read this several times to work out if the OP was serious or not. I know that if I caught someone on the petrol station forecourt staring at me with their judgey eyes while I filled the car with my 2 year old daughter and/or wife in it they would get an earful of what's good for them!

But then I read the OP's other forum posts from thread's he's started and realised he's simply a troll! Nothing to see here, move along people.





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  #1295068 1-May-2015 14:35
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If you are paranoid about a static electric discharge causing a fire while refuelling there are a couple of steps you can take;

1. When getting out of the car grab a metal part of the car before you put your foot on the ground. The bare metal hoop the door latch attaches to is a good place to grab.

2. When filling the tank open the petrol cap flap, pick up the nozzle from the pump and gently touch bare metal inside the fuel cap flap. and then open the fuel cap proper.. If there is a static electrical discharge when nozzle and car meet the fuel in the car tank is protected by the petrol cap.




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  #1295102 1-May-2015 15:49
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Geektastic:
jpoc: I know that refueling fires are rare but they do happen. If NZ matches European nations proportionally there will be one or two every year or so here. I was filling up one of my cars today. I could have saved a few minutes by going to the pump on the way home from picking my wife up from work but I do not accept filling the tank with passengers in the car so I dropped her off at home and went out to the pumps by myself. As I was there, a young woman pulled up at the pump behind me. I noticed that she had two kids in the back. Both looked to be about 2 years old - perhaps twins. They were in car seats, strapped in nice 'n tight and both were asleep. Realising that their presumed mother was going to fill the tank with the two kiddies sleeping and strapped in in the back seat, I idly wondered if she had already decided which one she loved the most in case of fire. Then she plipped the remote and locked the doors and I understood that she really did not love either of them enough to care about what to do in the event of fire. Do you fill your tank while your friends and family are sitting in the car?


So what do you do if you are on an 8 hour drive and need fuel? Make them stand in the rain while you do it?

I live in Wellington but have family in Auckland that I drive up to see at least once a year. When I need to gas up mid-trip, in the interests of safety, I drop my wife and daughter on the side of the road 500m short of the petrol station, then refuel with them waiting at a safe distance.

Once I even remembered to go back and pick them up again afterwards...  

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  #1295153 1-May-2015 16:24
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Sidestep: The quickest way to get my twins to sleep at the same time was to strap the flailing, screaming little monkeys into their car seats & start driving. Soon blessed silence would descend..


Did you ever try drugging them? innocent

 
 
 
 

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  #1295177 1-May-2015 17:14
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andrew027: Once I even remembered to go back and pick them up again afterwards...  


I bet you won't make that mistake twice!

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  #1295260 1-May-2015 19:06
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Strange thread...

I haven't really had to deal with this problem before. Our child is young and I usually do the groceries alone and refuel afterwards.

We did do a road trip recently and refueled with wife and baby in the car. That was a lot safer than telling my wife to exit the car and stand in the southerly with our 6 month old. The look in her eye would be enough to cause me harm.

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  #1295317 1-May-2015 21:18
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LMFAO


I love all the replies in this thread, they've made my friday night.

Now I'm heading down the servo with my Mrs and the dog to fuel up, buy and smoke ciggies, inflate the tyres, pull off some plug leads, rev the V8 to 11,000, ring a few people, and order a new tinfoil hat*.





* Not really, I don't smoke.

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  #1295320 1-May-2015 21:24
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jpoc: I know that refueling fires are rare but they do happen. If NZ matches European nations proportionally there will be one or two every year or so here. I was filling up one of my cars today. I could have saved a few minutes by going to the pump on the way home from picking my wife up from work but I do not accept filling the tank with passengers in the car so I dropped her off at home and went out to the pumps by myself. As I was there, a young woman pulled up at the pump behind me. I noticed that she had two kids in the back. Both looked to be about 2 years old - perhaps twins. They were in car seats, strapped in nice 'n tight and both were asleep. Realising that their presumed mother was going to fill the tank with the two kiddies sleeping and strapped in in the back seat, I idly wondered if she had already decided which one she loved the most in case of fire. Then she plipped the remote and locked the doors and I understood that she really did not love either of them enough to care about what to do in the event of fire. Do you fill your tank while your friends and family are sitting in the car?


When we refuelled in Argentina all passengers had to exit the vehicle. There are signs everywhere, not sure if it was company policy or the law.

Must admit I never blink an eyelid when in NZ about whether passengers are in the car or not when I refuel. I'd prefer them in the car than running about the forecourt.

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  #1295336 1-May-2015 21:48
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frankv:
Sidestep: The quickest way to get my twins to sleep at the same time was to strap the flailing, screaming little monkeys into their car seats & start driving. Soon blessed silence would descend..


Did you ever try drugging them? innocent


Gin in the milk is supposed to work well.





 
 
 

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  #1295367 1-May-2015 22:35
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andrew027:
Geektastic:
jpoc: I know that refueling fires are rare but they do happen. If NZ matches European nations proportionally there will be one or two every year or so here. I was filling up one of my cars today. I could have saved a few minutes by going to the pump on the way home from picking my wife up from work but I do not accept filling the tank with passengers in the car so I dropped her off at home and went out to the pumps by myself. As I was there, a young woman pulled up at the pump behind me. I noticed that she had two kids in the back. Both looked to be about 2 years old - perhaps twins. They were in car seats, strapped in nice 'n tight and both were asleep. Realising that their presumed mother was going to fill the tank with the two kiddies sleeping and strapped in in the back seat, I idly wondered if she had already decided which one she loved the most in case of fire. Then she plipped the remote and locked the doors and I understood that she really did not love either of them enough to care about what to do in the event of fire. Do you fill your tank while your friends and family are sitting in the car?


So what do you do if you are on an 8 hour drive and need fuel? Make them stand in the rain while you do it?

I live in Wellington but have family in Auckland that I drive up to see at least once a year. When I need to gas up mid-trip, in the interests of safety, I drop my wife and daughter on the side of the road 500m short of the petrol station, then refuel with them waiting at a safe distance.

Once I even remembered to go back and pick them up again afterwards...  


After reading the OP's post I'm not sure if you're taking the piss or not????

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  #1295437 1-May-2015 23:53
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  #1295954 3-May-2015 00:55
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Seems Z support risking your occupants life's with their pay at pump ads with the children in the back seat.

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  #1296060 3-May-2015 11:42
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Clearly we need to boycott Z with the help of Family First and perhaps a citizens initiated referendum that seeks to overthow them.

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