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#3313432 27-Nov-2024 15:39

Dingbatt:

Just had a look at the Kia EV5 at the local dealer. It was bigger than I expected, and looks better in the metal than it does in photos (imo). It was the “Earth” AWD model, so $80450+ORC (prices range from $68.5K to $85.5K plus ORC). Quite nicely appointed, but has an NMC battery. Wired Apple CarPlay and Android Auto though, come on Kia get with the times!
Will be interesting to compare with the Sealion 7, which I believe is due Q1 next year.

The salesman offered a test drive of the EV5, I may take him up on it at some stage.

All models of EV5 are LFP according to specs

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#3313437 27-Nov-2024 15:58

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All models of EV5 are LFP according to specs

Ah yes I see that now. I had downloaded the brochure and it said “Lithium-ion Phosphate” instead of Lithium Iron Phosphate, so I can only assume I saw the Lithium Ion bit and made assumptions (0/10 for comprehension).

That certainly is in its favour in my book.

I asked about the EV3. Q1 of next year as well apparently, although there has been a non certified one (not NZ spec) floating around NZ for dealers to try. I believe it may be more suitable as a Ford Focus replacement for us.

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#3313457 27-Nov-2024 16:53

They must have got stuck with a lot of EV9 stock - they are so heavily discounted. Quite luxurious and all the bells and whistles but the size of an aircraft carrier. The EV9's giant 100kWh batteries are LiPo type

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#3313460 27-Nov-2024 16:56

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They must have got stuck with a lot of EV9 stock - they are so heavily discounted. Quite luxurious and all the bells and whistles but the size of an aircraft carrier. The EV9's giant 100kWh batteries are LiPo type

Parked next to one at a supermarket, made the ID5 I'm in feel like a 90s family sedan.

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#3313465 27-Nov-2024 17:13

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They must have got stuck with a lot of EV9 stock - they are so heavily discounted. Quite luxurious and all the bells and whistles but the size of an aircraft carrier. The EV9's giant 100kWh batteries are LiPo type

Wow! You’re not wrong. The a brand new GT-Line has dropped from $135K to $100K. It’s an impressive vehicle but way too big for our needs.

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#3314038 29-Nov-2024 03:54

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#3314060 29-Nov-2024 08:14

johno1234:

They must have got stuck with a lot of EV9 stock - they are so heavily discounted. Quite luxurious and all the bells and whistles but the size of an aircraft carrier. The EV9's giant 100kWh batteries are LiPo type

LiPo!? That's going to look hilarious (and scary) when they inevitably swell up to twice their original size.

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#3314063 29-Nov-2024 08:36

Just wanted to gain the group's view on this topic. If you have an EV with V2L, have you made provisions to use that feature should you have a power outage? Obviously you need to work out which are they the key pieces of equpment that need to have power. I would imagine they would be the ONT (if you have fibre), your broadband router, possibly a portable induction hob and some portable lights. In case of an extended outage (how can you tell) you would want your fridge/freezer covered also. And that is the dilemma. Most of us would have our fridges connected to an outlet behind them against the wall and would be loathe to drag the fridge out to connect to the car. Ideally if we could plug in an electrical extension into the wall, and somehow drape it over the top or side of the bridge, and then plug the fridge into that. Then in an outage, it should be easier to unplug the bridge from the extendion cable into the power stirp attached to the car. According this video (this is using an Iioniq 5) you could run the house on the car for a few days. This is 110V but the avalable power would be comparable.

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#3314064 29-Nov-2024 08:40

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Just wanted to gain the group's view on this topic. If you have an EV with V2L, have you made provisions to use that feature should you have a power outage?

Not especially - we have several very long extension cords, always stored in the same place along with the V2L module itself and a couple of power boards. One runs straight down to the water pump, one runs inside the house to a power board where we split it out for the fridge, the intertubes, and assorted chargers and another shorter one runs to the other side of the garage where the chest freezer is.

We already had the long extension cords well prior to getting V2L.

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#3314073 29-Nov-2024 09:11

Our car has V2L capability, but I don't have a V2L cable.

If I were to use it, the first thing I'd connect would be fridges and freezers (we have three).

Then, Internet, then TV. Maybe a couple of lamps. Wouldn't worry about cooking - I have a butane single burner - that would be enough.

Fridges, Internet and TV would only be a 2-300W I think. Run for ages off the car battery, which unless the power outage happened the night I got home from a long drive, is always charged to 80-90% of a 64kWh battery. Even at 30% charge, I figure I'd easily get a couple of days of those appliances running.

A V2L adaptor is on the list of things to buy (it's a long list).

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#3314075 29-Nov-2024 09:26

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Our car has V2L capability, but I don't have a V2L cable.

If I were to use it, the first thing I'd connect would be fridges and freezers (we have three).

Then, Internet, then TV. Maybe a couple of lamps. Wouldn't worry about cooking - I have a butane single burner - that would be enough.

Fridges, Internet and TV would only be a 2-300W I think. Run for ages off the car battery, which unless the power outage happened the night I got home from a long drive, is always charged to 80-90% of a 64kWh battery. Even at 30% charge, I figure I'd easily get a couple of days of those appliances running.

A V2L adaptor is on the list of things to buy (it's a long list).

Luckily my ATTo3 came with the V2L adapter free. I need to sort out how to easily connect the fridge/freezer. The rest are relatively easy though my ONT, router and network switches are upstairs and the car is in the garage downstairs :-(

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#3314078 29-Nov-2024 09:36

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A V2L adaptor is on the list of things to buy (it's a long list).

For use once we got the appropriate vehicle, the adaptor was a no-brainer because we're on tank water. No power = no flushing toilets. :-)

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#3314079 29-Nov-2024 09:38

The Niro has a 3 pin socket in the back seat. There's also an adaptor available for the charge socket that retails at over $800. Still haven't worked out what we can run off the 3600W to make the most of it, but it's on the to-do list.

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#3314081 29-Nov-2024 09:53

This V2L discussion is exactly why we disregarded it as a practicality. For us it would involve running extension leads to the water pump (which is in the garage next to the car so easy), but more a problem is a fridge and 2 chest freezers across the driveway and for one freezer then downstairs, so all in all not a workable solution in the case of an outage. Add to that router, laptop and VoIP connected phones and it all just gets ridiculous.

Far better to add battery storage with blackout facility to our solar system, or hold out until V2G fills the same role which looks to be getting closer with the regulatory changes being implemented in Australia, whose electrical standards also apply here.

But for those pursuing a V2L based approach perhaps myenergi's V2L based AC V2H system is worth considering. Then it's just a matter of restricting what you hook onto a feed that has available ampage due to the EV's limitations.

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#3314148 29-Nov-2024 11:59

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This V2L discussion is exactly why we disregarded it as a practicality. For us it would involve running extension leads to the water pump (which is in the garage next to the car so easy), but more a problem is a fridge and 2 chest freezers across the driveway and for one freezer then downstairs, so all in all not a workable solution in the case of an outage. Add to that router, laptop and VoIP connected phones and it all just gets ridiculous.

Far better to add battery storage with blackout facility to our solar system, or hold out until V2G fills the same role which looks to be getting closer with the regulatory changes being implemented in Australia, whose electrical standards also apply here.

But for those pursuing a V2L based approach perhaps myenergi's V2L based AC V2H system is worth considering. Then it's just a matter of restricting what you hook onto a feed that has available ampage due to the EV's limitations.

You have a slightly set of requirements and I can understand why V2L might not work for you. But given V2L came free with my car and I don't have special electricity requirements, it's a pretty good solution for keeping power going when there is an outage.

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