4 km/hr speed tolerance 2015

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Topic # 185662 1-Dec-2015 08:39

hey everyone, just a reminder that 4km/hr speed tolerance starts from today - for 3 months.

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Reply # 1438284 1-Dec-2015 08:41

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Oh joy! We wish you a merry revenue grab!

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Reply # 1438285 1-Dec-2015 08:44

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And they say this isn't revenue collecting.....

Yeah Right.

I could understand it if they did it from about the 18th of December once schools had finished, but this is just blatant revenue collection.

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Reply # 1438287 1-Dec-2015 08:47

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Like urban creep, the 'holiday periods' will expand until they eventually join up and the 10km/hr tolerance will become a distant memory.
A big trap over this period will be roadworks where no work is taking place but the signs are still up.

In the end I guess I will just set the cruise control on or just below the posted limit and live with it.

Note: I have refrained from the rights, wrongs, revenue gathering arguments/rants.

Edit: I was composing when the above 2 posts were entered, I am not commenting on them.

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Reply # 1438289 1-Dec-2015 08:53

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I don't get this - it's only revenue collection if you break the speed limit. meh - never had a problem with the police enforcing the rules :\ regardless of time/date.

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Reply # 1438290 1-Dec-2015 08:53

Oh, the tolerance will go for the next 3 months. Get used to drive 'safely' guys!

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Reply # 1438291 1-Dec-2015 08:56

Was this in the news or something?

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Reply # 1438293 1-Dec-2015 08:59

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E3xtc: I don't get this - it's only revenue collection if you break the speed limit. meh - never had a problem with the police enforcing the rules :\ regardless of time/date.

My problem with it is that the rules that result in a larger fine seem (seem, that is, based purely on my own experiences I've either been involved in or witnesssed - so not a scientific study by any stretch) to be enforced more regularly and strictly than those that reduce dangerous behaviour. There is a lot of dangerous driving that occurs below the speed limit, but it's not often I've seen them get pinged for it (even with a police car just behind them!). I don't condone speeding, but I'd rather the car doing 49 who can't stay in their lane properly, or who turns left from a straight-only lane, get pulled over rather than the car doing 55 but driving otherwise safely.

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Reply # 1438294 1-Dec-2015 09:01

Don't exceed speed limit then they don't get the $$$$

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Reply # 1438295 1-Dec-2015 09:02

kiwifidget: Was this in the news or something?

Yep, I read/saw it in the news this morning.

Personally I'd be happier if they could do something about the slow drivers with a queue of cars behind them that speed up in the passing lanes. I have no problems at sticking to 95-100 (depending on Speedo) and everyone doing the same speed. It's the slow ones, along with the ones who have to get there first, that stuff everything up.

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Reply # 1438297 1-Dec-2015 09:08

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Inphinity:
E3xtc: I don't get this - it's only revenue collection if you break the speed limit. meh - never had a problem with the police enforcing the rules :\ regardless of time/date.

My problem with it is that the rules that result in a larger fine seem (seem, that is, based purely on my own experiences I've either been involved in or witnesssed - so not a scientific study by any stretch) to be enforced more regularly and strictly than those that reduce dangerous behaviour. There is a lot of dangerous driving that occurs below the speed limit, but it's not often I've seen them get pinged for it (even with a police car just behind them!). I don't condone speeding, but I'd rather the car doing 49 who can't stay in their lane properly, or who turns left from a straight-only lane, get pulled over rather than the car doing 55 but driving otherwise safely.

Yep, totally agree - it would look like a far more credible activity is they address the bad drivers, erratic, and the very slow drivers also. Or those who speed up from 90 to 105/110 when they hit passing lanes.

OR hey, here's an idea - they could actually start concentrating on [other] REAL crimes that they tend to ignore - burglery, gangs of wayward children hanging around urban shopping centres threatening the public, vandalising property and stealing from the shops. Tackle some of the crimes that are actually more important to people and that have a greater affect on society!

I don't personally care if someone is going 5 to 10km over the speed limit so much as some mofo who thicks it perfectly OK and socially acceptable to vandalise someone elses property or that they have the right to steal from others. This is what I want police working on - communities!

But yes, I will slow down 1 or 2km/hr to make sure I am under the revenue collection limit.

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Reply # 1438298 1-Dec-2015 09:10

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johnr: Don't exceed speed limit then they don't get the $$$$

This.
It's a voluntary tax.
Plus, most of the time on the main roads these days it's rare to be able to get up to the posted limits, let alone exceed them for long. Xmas period you just cater for longer trips than usual and go with the flow without worrying about it.
Yes I agree that it's not the correct focus and there are far more problems on the roads than those traveling between 4 and 10kmh over the limit but it's by far the easiest one to monitor.

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Reply # 1438299 1-Dec-2015 09:10

kiwifidget: Was this in the news or something?

It was announced several weeks ago and has been regularly commented on in the media since then :)

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Reply # 1438316 1-Dec-2015 09:23

I'll just sit out in my driveway with a beer and a book and watch you all crawl past my house on SH1. :-)

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Reply # 1438317 1-Dec-2015 09:24

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trig42:
kiwifidget: Was this in the news or something?

Yep, I read/saw it in the news this morning.

Personally I'd be happier if they could do something about the slow drivers with a queue of cars behind them that speed up in the passing lanes. I have no problems at sticking to 95-100 (depending on Speedo) and everyone doing the same speed. It's the slow ones, along with the ones who have to get there first, that stuff everything up.

You've hit the nail on the head.

It's the drivers that trundle along at 85-90 on the open road, then as soon as they get to a passing lane speed up to 105.

So if you pass them on a passing lane, you're speeding.

If you overtake them safely on a straight clear section of road, your likely to exceed the speed limit, as you don't want to be on the wrong side of the road for too long.

And when you've got 500km's to cover in a day, trundling along a 85km/h adds significant time to your journey. Add young ish children into the mix as well....hmm.

So please, don't speed, we don't need the carnage on the road over Christmas\holidays, but please try and keep to the speed limit, and if you do have a queue of traffic behind you and you do wish to travel at 85km/h, please pull over and let the traffic behind pass where it is safe to do so.

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Reply # 1438319 1-Dec-2015 09:28

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WyleECoyoteNZ:
trig42:
kiwifidget: Was this in the news or something?

Yep, I read/saw it in the news this morning.

Personally I'd be happier if they could do something about the slow drivers with a queue of cars behind them that speed up in the passing lanes. I have no problems at sticking to 95-100 (depending on Speedo) and everyone doing the same speed. It's the slow ones, along with the ones who have to get there first, that stuff everything up.

You've hit the nail on the head.

It's the drivers that trundle along at 85-90 on the open road, then as soon as they get to a passing lane speed up to 105.

So if you pass them on a passing lane, you're speeding.

If you overtake them safely on a straight clear section of road, your likely to exceed the speed limit, as you don't want to be on the wrong side of the road for too long.

And when you've got 500km's to cover in a day, trundling along a 85km/h adds significant time to your journey. Add young ish children into the mix as well....hmm.

So please, don't speed, we don't need the carnage on the road over Christmas\holidays, but please try and keep to the speed limit, and if you do have a queue of traffic behind you and you do wish to travel at 85km/h, please pull over and let the traffic behind pass where it is safe to do so.

Agreed - consistant velocity at the speed limit would be brilliant.

Those who drop 20km/hr when there is an on coming car - grrrr

Those who do 90 on the open road, but 60+ in 50km/hr areas - WTF and grrr

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