He's on fire!

Two wicket taking deliveries in two balls, just off on the LB. he's got his line sorted now, in the groove

Bat and pad at same time? Whats the deal there?

Edit, depends on the umpires call.. Not sure I like umpires call being the result (although it helped us here)

Third umpire is to take over the umpire's mistake or non mistake and make the right call. Cricket doesnt seem to do that.

That is RUBBISH umpiring yet again, clearly edge onto pad. Goes NZ's way for once but still stinks.

The one real spinner in the team doing his job at last. Now is when we need the 2 strike bowlers to step in with 3 quick wickets.

Bizarre collapse.

TeaLeaf:

 

That is RUBBISH umpiring yet again, clearly edge onto pad. Goes NZ's way for once but still stinks.

The one real spinner in the team doing his job at last. Now is when we need the 2 strike bowlers to step in with 3 quick wickets.

Bizarre collapse.

 

Rubbish! :-)

The frame showed the ball hit the bat and pad at the same time, the next frame was the deviation. Im GLAD he's out, you get that with sport, but I wish some sports would aim for the correct third umpire call and not let it hang on an umpire 22 yards from the impact and in a split second with no second look. . 

Will Young payback.

tdgeek: Not sure I like umpires call being the result (although it helped us here)

 

It needs to go. Send it up without an opinion if its a challenge, let the challenge be without any influence. Let the 3rd umpire make the decision and if he cant, then favour goes to the batsman. I disagree with Doull that it brushed the pad first, I dont know what he was watching.

When it really stink is when umpire goes up not out and its clipping the wickets, that should be redefined for a certain percentage for the 3rd umpire.

Either way, it needs to go up for 3rd umpire only. This has been talked about for long enough and the talk about it occuring has gone nowhere.

Patel getting taken to as I expected more of on a batting wicket, which is why I thought 3 spinners, especially Somers, was overkill. Why you wouldnt play they one guy in the team who can take wickets on any wicket and put GP in instead of Mitchell, is absurd. 

NZ leaking runs after the contorversy.

Ajaz, 90% was line and length balls

TeaLeaf:

 

It needs to go. Send it up without an opinion if its a challenge, let the challenge be without any influence. Let the 3rd umpire make the decision and if he cant, then favour goes to the batsman. I disagree with Doull that it brushed the pad first, I dont know what he was watching.

When it really stink is when umpire goes up not out and its clipping the wickets, that should be redefined for a certain percentage for the 3rd umpire.

Either way, it needs to go up for 3rd umpire only. This has been talked about for long enough and the talk about it occuring has gone nowhere.

Patel getting taken to as I expected more of on a batting wicket, which is why I thought 3 spinners, especially Somers, was overkill. Why you wouldnt play they one guy in the team who can take wickets on any wicket and put GP in instead of Mitchell, is absurd. 

NZ leaking runs after the contorversy.

 

We agree on what I bolded. Rugby gets interrupted a bit, but the third umpire makes the call, the refs opinion is not relevant. Its about an accurate result, not massaging the umpires split second opinion

The two frames were crystal clear. Frame 1 it hit bat and pad. if it was  1/2 or 1/4 frame then we would know, but it was one frame. Frame 2 was the deviation as off course it hit the bat, irregardless. Your opinion seems to be based on suiting NZ, I want it to suit NZ but it was wrong. Inconclusive, don't know what hit what first, so no change. But in any case its a Will Young payback so I'll take it

Id be bowling Ravindra by now, this is showing why Mitchell was the wrong choice, the only seamer who would get wickets now is Wagner.

But wow Southee was bowling at 1po when Ind are still scoring at 3rpo, which NZ need to focus on replicating.

TeaLeaf:

 

Patel getting taken to as I expected more of on a batting wicket, which is why I thought 3 spinners, especially Somers, was overkill. Why you wouldnt play they one guy in the team who can take wickets on any wicket and put GP in instead of Mitchell, is absurd. 

NZ leaking runs after the contorversy.

 

Not really. RPO is 3. It was 2.84 a while back. We were hammered when KJ came in, its all ebbs and flows. Its still just 3.

Mitchell, they wanted to keep the batting as similar as they could. You wanted seamers, is GP a seamer? :-) 

Look at KJ, his stats are the same as Somerville's. Its cricket, ebbs and flows, but its over 5 days, they ebb and flow to what day 5 over gives us. Periods will be spin and then seam periods, easy batting, hard batting. 

Be patient!

Think Chess

TeaLeaf:

 

Id be bowling Ravindra by now, this is showing why Mitchell was the wrong choice, the only seamer who would get wickets now is Wagner.

But wow Southee was bowling at 1po when Ind are still scoring at 3rpo, which NZ need to focus on replicating.

 

Wagner will reduce the batting total. If they chose Mitchell over Wagner they did that for batting. Replacing Kane with a bowler is a risk.Is it worth while stacking batsmen or stacking bowlers? If Boult was here, you could stack the bowlers, hoping the batting runs they cost us will be more rewarded with the bowling runs they saved. Or stack the batsmen and do the opposite. I feel they stacked the batsmen as we dont have the bowlers to stack right now. India in India probably means a balanced side of both isn't the best attack, its quite neutral. Attack either with all out bowling or all out batting. Aggressive.

Critical session this. Southee is tiring. KJ and Ravindra need to find something otherwise the day will edge towards India. Ajaz come in for 3 or 4 overs every now and then, both for variation and allow others to rest.

tdgeek:

 

Wagner will reduce the batting total.

 

Not sure how, he was to replace Somerville. He should be bowling instead of Somerville. This was known to be a bounce wicket that pace bowlers enjoy. Somerville should never have been in the equation, Wagner is the fastest left hand bowler in history to 200 test wickets, he bowls as many or more overs than a spinner at a much lower avg than any NZ spinner. Its a no brainer which imo should have been in the first test and most expert were adamant was a formality for this test. But Kane is still pulling the strings.

Also if you play GP you have a spin bowler with a better first class bowling average and close to same batting average as Ravindra, so that was a no brainer for me as well instead of Mitchell. Instead NZ have tried to get too cute with their team in a test that is possibly more important than the WTC final. Winning a tour in India, how many, if any?

Now Somerville bowling his well flighted pies, going for 5.5rpo. Yeah, well done Kane, Larsen and Stead. Clap clap. Wagner watches on in fury, what a waste of his talent sidelined for a long time, what a waste. May as well not bowl him in NZ on similar pitches. He would be sticking to chest high bounce on this wicket and frustrating a 5fa out of Ind. Instead NZ will let them off the hook, again.

Frustrated with the so called brains of NZC.

Sigh, when Ajaz is your only wicket taker you know something wrong. Southee was good. Jamo not using his height correctly on sooooo much bounce.

NZ need wickets yet have 2 part time bowlers and one full timer who are pretty pointless in the team, Ravindra maybe if he can find something, but his FC avg doesnt suggest any hope. Patel not a big time wicket taker but showing why a wrist spinner like himself or in white ball Sodhi are lethal on bouncy wickets like this,

NZ could go well here with Jadeja out of the Indian team. 2 more wickets and a crumble.

tdgeek:Your opinion seems to be based on suiting NZ, I want it to suit NZ but it was wrong. Inconclusive, don't know what hit what first, so no change. But in any case its a Will Young payback so I'll take it

 

Im biased on suiting NZ how, with Kohli called out by the umpire? Not sure how saying it was not out is suiting NZ....... when its the direct opposite. 

Some movement from that last ball from Jamo, maiden. Better. He needs to run the outside off line and use the cutter 3/4 ball that comes in and is so often played on, once an over as a surprise wicket ball. Or the fuller length yorker but be careful because not much movement in the air.