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  #2801169 26-Oct-2021 10:06
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you really should watch the interview at the end. a changed man. it was like from the early on the race he didn't think he would be able to pass max so he didn't expect to pass and hence very accepting.  maybe he also knows he has another engine penalty coming but i don't want to think too much, just want to see how the next 5 races play out.

 

 

I watched the stand up interview, from what I recall he said max was too fast? At the time I thought that was a bit odd, as while Max got pole, it was close, and Merc is faster, and ran less wing so was a lot faster in the speedtrap, RBR was 3rd slowest in the speed trap, and he cruised up to him with plenty of laps left. yes, he did downplay it (as usual) but it was more a strategy loss. As Brundle said, Merc is a faster car and and you have DRS and you have the tow, its indefensible for Max

 

 

i don't think Lewis got within DRS, so no he did not have DRS.

 

he had the ""faster"" car because the stupid people at RBR decided they want max to do 30 laps on a tyre. so no he did not have the faster car - you can see at the start max was all over Lewis until the time he did the undercut and then he pulled away like crazy. they know full well that max is not Lewis. Lewis can do 50 laps on a tyre. max will burn it to the ground in 5.




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  #2801172 26-Oct-2021 10:09
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As Brundle said, Merc is a faster car and and you have DRS and you have the tow, its indefensible for Max

 

 

But does this kind of sum up F1 at the moment? Hamilton closed to almost a second, but despite the above advantages, following a car still almost prevent then from getting within one second (and DRS) so it was almost moot.

 

Again, a few more laps could have been interesting, but the Red Bull and Merc are too closely matched for the tow and DRS to just blast past. 

 

 

it's been like this most of the season. car ahead stays ahead. if merc wanted to win they should have done the undercut. the reason max won is because he got ahead form the undercut. then RBR really wanted to throw it away by undercutting themselves and wanting Max to do a Lewis.

 

C Horner said Max had used up all his tyres long before the finish line.


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  #2801175 26-Oct-2021 10:13
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But does this kind of sum up F1 at the moment? Hamilton closed to almost a second, but despite the above advantages, following a car still almost prevent then from getting within one second (and DRS) so it was almost moot.

 

Again, a few more laps could have been interesting, but the Red Bull and Merc are too closely matched for the tow and DRS to just blast past. 

 

 

DRS is a pass, but RBR would struggle due to low top end speed. The issue was that Max saved his tyres, and Lewis had a slight loose rear end, so Max with good tyres can still do solid laps bit more so, he he had great traction on the key turns , T9 and T20 IIRC, so that gave him insurance. Otherwise its a slam dunk, so there was more to it




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  #2801176 26-Oct-2021 10:16
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i don't think Lewis got within DRS, so no he did not have DRS.

 

he had the ""faster"" car because the stupid people at RBR decided they want max to do 30 laps on a tyre. so no he did not have the faster car - you can see at the start max was all over Lewis until the time he did the undercut and then he pulled away like crazy. they know full well that max is not Lewis. Lewis can do 50 laps on a tyre. max will burn it to the ground in 5.

 

 

LOIL, wrong on so many levels


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  #2801186 26-Oct-2021 10:35
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don't quote me, that's what Christian Horner said, max had no tyres and he wasn't expecting a Max victory


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  #2801203 26-Oct-2021 10:51
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don't quote me, that's what Christian Horner said, max had no tyres and he wasn't expecting a Max victory

 

 

"Stupid peple at RBR" "If Mercedes wanted to win" I get where you are coming from

 

Both had no tyres, one had 3 laps newer tyres, one used tyre management to help him out. When Lewis cruised him 8 laps put it was over as expected, but a sit happened, tyre management, good traction on T9 and 20, all that evened things up.


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  #2801789 27-Oct-2021 09:28
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f1 is boring if LH wins but exciting if he doesn't.

 

 

 

 

To be fair it has got to that point. 
Everyone bemoaned the Schumacher Ferrari dominance years as being bad for the sport, and even Red Bull was getting close with Sebastian Vettel, but 7 years of Mercedes dominance has seriously impacted the excitement. 

 

 

 

Fully hoping 2022 allows for multiple teams to go at it.  Right now it all hinges on Max/Red Bull to simply do something different.


 
 
 

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  #2809461 8-Nov-2021 17:23
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good to see that Bottas is helping max. he gave Max enough room to drive a tank past him. Hamilton commented at the end that Bottas let Max through.

 

he must be so sick of hearing "hi valtteri, it's james" throughout the race.


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  #2809621 8-Nov-2021 22:04
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good to see that Bottas is helping max. he gave Max enough room to drive a tank past him. Hamilton commented at the end that Bottas let Max through.

 

he must be so sick of hearing "hi valtteri, it's james" throughout the race.

 

 

Lol


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Can't help but think that this years title will be decided by either Max or Lewis being taken out of a race in highly controversial fashion.

Question it, who's going to take one for the team and 'lock up' Tsunoda, Russell? Or will Ham or Max pull a Shumi and turn in themselves.... The post race Toto vs Horner interviews might be more entertaining than the last 7 years combined.

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insane: Can't help but think that this years title will be decided by either Max or Lewis being taken out of a race in highly controversial fashion.


Yeah the gaps never big enough for it to be decisive.  If one finishes first, the other is usually right behind to minimise the points difference.
Still in the zone of a calculated takeout.

 

Just pleased to see a season that isn't fully Mercedes dominance.  Not anti Hamilton (although the 'I am Jesus' type PR vibe can be a bit hard to take) but more I'm fully anti 7 years of one team dominance, which is just not healthy for the sport.

 

 

 

Really looking forward to 2022 now with hopes the rule changes will shake things up a bit.

 

 

 

Sad to see McLaren losing real ground to Ferrari now, after a pretty dream start to the season for them.


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  #2809766 9-Nov-2021 09:49
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I find it good that  a team can take a car down on HP and make it into a competitive package. Thats why I liked RBR in their 4 big years, lucky to be midfield in the speed trap, but won four Constructors titles

 

Im worried about next year. After 7 years the grid has compressed quite a bit, great. But when they start from a new canvas there will be some that nailed it and some that are well off the pace, and we will restart a 7 year grind to close the field. If they kept the same car that means the top cars have less time to gain while the others have more gains that they can make.


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good to see that Bottas is helping max. he gave Max enough room to drive a tank past him. Hamilton commented at the end that Bottas let Max through.

 

he must be so sick of hearing "hi valtteri, it's james" throughout the race.

 

 

Anything short of taking Max out is apparently 'helping Max' lmao. 


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It was a bit of a mirror of the US grand prix but switched around. Perez closing down seven seconds or so to Hamilton in the last ten laps only to park behind for the last two. 

 

I'm a Honda fan but I didn't especially enjoy the race. The Mercedes fastest lap did kind of point out an issue with it. I didn't realise you could still get a constructors point for fastest lap if you were outside the top ten. It may prove the difference, as Hamilton and Bottas have been more consistent in acquiring constructor's points than Perez and Verstappen. 


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Do you really still get the constructors point for fastest lap if you are out of the top 10? That's dumb...


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