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#3069876 1-May-2023 10:53

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To me, this was last years Warriors. Yes we were missing Charnze and Jazz and Tohu but the rest of the team should still be able to go on. Shaun wasnt having a good day and again the dubious ref calls, but a good team can work around the ref so cant blame that completely :(

Next weekend, Panthers Saturday night...

Yes and No. This season they started running the ball, offloads. Game 1 they were told by the new coach to play free, play with flair, express yourself, they did. Every game they have its been excellent. Lately they have been playing conservative in some games so they lost them. Apart from one where the other team made many errors and lost it

I want to know why the game style changes on and off. Coach call or a Kiwi choke?

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#3073611 8-May-2023 08:36

ONE NZ Boss @jasonparis summed it up beautifully on twitter. "We are playing against 14 men, 13 from the Panthers + the Ref"

Sure Demitric Sifakula should have been sin binned for punching and but Nathan Cleary's tackle was a clear shoulder charge and should have been binned also.

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#3073614 8-May-2023 08:49

Yep

It was a good game though, Warriors ran the ball, offloads etc, when they do that they do very well. Penrith are the better team, but Warriors kept them close

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#3073645 8-May-2023 09:54

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Yep

It was a good game though, Warriors ran the ball, offloads etc, when they do that they do very well. Penrith are the better team, but Warriors kept them close

It was a gutsy effort to keep back-to-back premiers to a margin of 14 points.

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#3075901 13-May-2023 20:03

Easy win, played proper, good. Im getting sick and tired of the commentators though.

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#3088236 10-Jun-2023 18:03

Great match last night. A close loss to the Raiders would be a good result. Got hammered by Raiders dominating early, we defended well. Then we hammered them, but we scored. It wasnt a weird result, we defended well (we are Numero 4 in NRL defence stats) and we attacked well later when they faded. We should have faded with the defence work we did. While I have seen great work this season we have also gone back to old ways, but as each game has come and gone, the Warriors have solidified and become more consistent. Good defence, good attack with flair

If you can defend a try, its the same as getting one

Number 5 on the table, although a couple behind us have a game or so up their sleeves. At the elite level in any sport, a lot is between the ears. In the past, yes the Worriers (spelling intended) could beat anyone, but mostly they disappoint, but now, they are a real threat to any team up in the standings, that adds pressure and cautiousness to the opposition. Interesting times.

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#3088272 10-Jun-2023 22:10

Gret game! and even better we upset the Croker 300 party..... lots of facebook comments about the refs in the sin bins but re-watched the game they were sin bin offences.

Great result leading into a bye, watched the St George v Souths tonight and they are a strong outfit so will have to bring that consistency (mins the stupid stuff into our next game to beat St George)

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#3088727 11-Jun-2023 23:02

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Gret game! and even better we upset the Croker 300 party.....

Yes indeed. Have you seen the stat on one club 300 game player games? its about 30% win rate now haha.

Too many good players in the team to name, but SJ and Metcalf have really added shape and multiple offensive options inside the redzone, largely due to Staceys work with them, that SJ to DWZ kick is 3/4 now and Stacey has them practising it a lot, makes sense with FB in line and compressed defense, get it out to the wing with a kick and there isnt enough reaction time to defend it.

CNK, has to be in contention for the to FB if he keeps this up. Just insane intensity and ultra low error rate, the best engine of any player. He is off the charts fit.

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#3088925 12-Jun-2023 11:34

Haha on queue Newshub picking up on the scoop. It is surely effective (although more conventional is to go side to side very quickly to leave the wing unmarked), teams playing compressed D, get up in your face fast, which is why Metcalf hasnt had the space to blast through the line more than a couple of times, although he seems to be everywhere, similar to Papanhuyzen in support. That run up the sideline absolutely blasted Whightons ears off as Metcalf hit the NOS. If we can get metcalf into half gaps he is lethal, true potential as a great 5/8th but can play any position in the back line, but then, we seem to be hiring a lot of utility backs like RTS, CHT, Walker etc (CHT and Walker can play in the forwards if need be too).

SJ is just on fire this season, hes in contention for Dally M but there is some clear unintentional bias.

My thoughts on SJ are that he is looking fitter than ever and plenty of more beaten up players have gone on to 36-38yo. two more years he is only 35yo. It would be idiotic to release one of the to 5 form half backs given we would not pick up another. In saying that Volkman is clearly our future and Im hoing Metcalf too, but we have plenty of good halvs with TMM too, CHT is good at 7 (not as good as the other 4 though imo).

My worry is, even though Webby is saying that there is always a spot for Shaun if he wants it, does that include two years. Because I think SJ wants to stay but for two years or he wlll retire. Which is a good thing, the fear I have is with management, with RTS being expensive by the teams standard and now CHT, have they left enough growth cap (for players as they get better ie Egan), to afford Shaun for two years. If not they are blimmn morons. Especially given Johnson is on peanuts, he is in the team to win the Prem, as are many other players on unders. I feel the RTS deal was a bit much, but we didnt know how Ali would go or that CHT would say yes, filling our centre spots with enormous depth.

Speaking of, how good did the young man Ali go on debut, he has serious offensive power and is a solid defender. Many were doubters, but Ive been tracking him in NSW cup and hes easily one of our standout players.

Currently 5th (3rd equal but Byes etc), with a much softer second half of the season, I can see us realistically making the top 4, but we wont beat Penrith if we cant play for two consecutive halves, we cant keep making sooo many errors in one half then next to none the next half.

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#3100713 6-Jul-2023 18:16

Its nice to be 2 wins ahead of the required pace to make the 8. But that loss to Cody Walker and Cookie really hurt. Going into this round. Paramatta imo are the number 2 team so far this year. Certainly their points scored suggests they are lethal on offense as the #1 team with 440 poins scored, 132 differential. Some how the Raiders hang in there with -65 diff.

Im expecting the Rabbits will drop out of the 8 or finish 8th by the end of Ref season. Start of season my ladder predictor had us finishing 5th, i think that is still very likely with some big players coming back 4-8 weeks out from the finals, but I think the loss to the bunnies will cost us darely.

Too hard to call a top 4 this far out in such a tight comp, but if I had to Id say 1. Pennies 2. Eels 3. Broncos 4. Storm.

The good news for the Warriors is, the final 5 games are all non top 8 teams. I expect 5/5 there, unlikely but with Jazz soon to return and Niukore from suspension we could really be hitting our strides. But the losses to Newc second game and last weeks weekend Bunnies could cost us badly.

From the 3 hard games of our final 8, Parra - away, Sharks - Home, Raiders - home, isee the Parra game as the hardest of our season. If we could some how pull a victory, it would have us back on track to outside chance of top 4.

Either way, 8 rounds left, looking at our Personnel and our ability to move on quickly, most of all I am hoping for fast tracks, the opposite of the weekend. Guys like Metcalf are breaking through with ankle taps in slloppy conditions saving the opposiion. CNK, Metcalf, DWZ, SJ, are all explosive very quick guys, but hard to play that game in what became a hydroplane, Mt Smart is a disgrace of a home ground imo.

anyway, I see us wining 7/8, Which should leave us in contention for a home game. However if we lose 3 of the 8 we will finish top 8 but not by buy a lot. 16/11 looks a lot better than 14/13.

The Cowboys are the only realistic danger outside the 8 at this stage, very similarly placed to us, but we are about to take on Parra. So outside cementing a top 4 contender in everybodies heads with a win, a loss will likely see us out of the 8, 9th due to differental.

However we have had a very hard draw until this final 8 which is what you really want. a loss to Parra is expected and wont change too much, but a win for the Warriors, well that will shake up the team everybody has as under the radar, looking to cement their run to the top 4 in this round. With a NZ team hurt by an unexpected loss, at their home, the greatest purpose built League ground in the World (Suncorp 2nd, due to being too big, it doesnt have everybody on top of the play and has a lot of sets with obstructed poor visibility).

So its not mission critical, but if the Warriors can beat Parra, no doubt an unlikely if, but if they can, the Warriors could have a perfect 8/0 run ending 17/10 (similar to our MP 03 year) going into the Finals with a home game and possibly 2ncg chance footy.

I think more likely w finish 15/12, best case 16/11 which is likely top 4. We will just have to wait and see if we can shake off a massive loss and make the most of dr tracks when we get them.

all in all, I think this will be a massive turn around for the club and we will finish this year with an even deeper Roster next year. I do believe we will crack a maiden Premershi within the 3 years. I just hope we havnt over spent and can afford SJ on his current pittance for another 2 years. Partly to win, but mostly to offload his knowledge to Volkman as our future little general and Metcalf to produce consistent x factor performances up their with the likes of Munster. TMM will provide the depth that the club needs in the halves. I dont think Webby will risk resetting the plays around TMM joining the team late into the finals. I think hes more likely to reassess where we are at in experience and offensive capability. Metcalf is a runnbing back, but TMM is very good at creating holes for the offense. Its win win if they share the role.

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#3100716 6-Jul-2023 18:38

TeaLeaf:

Going into this round. Paramatta imo are the number 2 team so far this year.

TAB has Warriors as 1.61 favourites and Eels at 2.27

Eels are 6th and we are 8th on the ladder, how does that make Eels No.2?

Haven't read the rest of your post which I will do now, but that point stuck out

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#3100718 6-Jul-2023 18:46

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all in all, I think this will be a massive turn around for the club

Of course it is but i see it otherwise. You cannot just turn around a club. We all know what the Warriors have been like. Solid, safe, reliable, but no punch.

Webster told them to run the ball, pass the ball, offload the ball, play to win, and they started off like that. Then they played safe and got hammered. Then they played to win again and they win. Each game they get better, they "seem" to have shrugged off the old mentality. Ive noticed set plays more and more

Say we play a leading team, ok, we will lose. But at elite sport the skill takes a back seat to how you manage the mind. Us, unlikely we can win so we can play freely, nothing to lose. Them, we should win but they are GOOD, so they play a bit safer just in case. Thats TWO benefits to the underdog who is a minor underdog. And this benefits compound.

Its about who manages between the ears, aka chokes

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#3104845 16-Jul-2023 19:40

Another stellar outing.Sharks a slight favourite, and blown away. Warriors arent 10/10 on anything, but they are 9/10 out of everything, thats key in elite sport. Plus while many teams have star players, everyone in the Warriors is a big asset

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#3104847 16-Jul-2023 19:47

Good to see us on a dry'ish track again.

Been enjoying Andrews post-match press conferences too. Always things to work on but heading in the right direction.

Now here's hoping the Dolphins get the win against the Panthers.

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#3110994 2-Aug-2023 12:49

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Good to see us on a dry'ish track again.

Yes this is very much the modern Warriors. a highly mobile forward pack who all have ball player skills, afb, niukore, Ford, Mtch Barnett, Jazz, Tohu, Walker when he plays in the back row, Egan. Bunty is probably our only forward that does a simple, but good, job of hitting the ball up. The rest can step or have good ball handling, slowing the pass down etc. But it all starts with Egan (who many consider right now the top 9 in the game). Jazz is going to inject even more intensity into the side, when he was playing we were cruising up the middle 3rd with a rolling front foot of 70m gains etc.

Titans could have been a bigger test of us, after having some time off to recharge, but I bet our boys havnt slacked off, they prob consolidated 3rd spot and how we keep it. SJ is fav at current point for the Dally M, something that has alluded him, he just needs to keep playing with no fear for the fun of it.

Titans are missing BIG Tino who is their aFB. He has an issue with fending with a cockd forearm, which has blredy broken a jaw This latest one was a bit soft imo, totally milked, but once you under the radar you going to get pinged every time. So he wont be playing. They still have a quality side, but hes the one who gets them on the front foot.

Depending how games go, if Manlly can win the next couple, they back in with a chance so 3rd game could be trouble for us. But like we depend on SJ (although I see metcalf ad TMM then Volkman changing our dependency), Manly rely on Tommy Turbo who is out for the season.

Our last game is likely going to be our toughest, especially if it gives the dolphins a chance of making the 8 if they improve the Diff.

BUT, if we play like the majority of the last 4 matches, we could quite easily go on to win all remaining 5, which I think will lock us in 3rd or possibly second.

Either way we will be playing Penrith week one of finals, whether at home or away is yet to be decided.

a VERY outside chance of taking the MP, need the Broncos to faulter on 2 games and we keep improving our Diff+. This game against a very tough cowboys is huge. But even then we need to win all our matches, which is quite possible if we take the opposition with respect but game plan to tear them apart.

Warriors vs Storm at home would be a massive game for us but very unlikely. But that would be an epic finals clash,

I think its shaping up Broncos vs Storm, Penrith vs Warrors for week one of the top 4.

Id be migty happy with that, given how far we have come. If we lost game one, we have a good chance week 2. any of the teams can win on their day. But Im mighty proud of what this team has achieved attitude wise. Supr high intensity in the middle 3rd and super high intensity on our goal line. For once I feel like its likely we will hold teams out the majority of the time..

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