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TeaLeaf

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  #3202597 3-Mar-2024 10:15
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tdgeek:

 

Good match, doing what they did last year. As I mentioned earlier we have a good number of young up and comers, a LOT to like

 

 

No doubt. You could play nearly half an NRL team and do "ok" from them. The 30 man squad is quality.

 

Im glad Webby is not replacing CNK with RTS at FB, Tuapiki is Te Maire Martin, quite incredible given the town they come from is in the hundreds population. Hes small, yes, but dang it hes nearly as quick as Luke Metcalf and he can calve a team up with his footwork, despite his size, hes an incredibly strong defender, often chopping guys twice his size in half, bit like CHT, or Toovey of old.

 

We have more winger depth this year. But for me Ali Leiataua was easily the standout edge player in centre last years NSW cup and some NRL game time, he has it all, strength, speed, footwork, ball skills. Keep an eye on his career because he has the potential to be a great.

a great forward pack, Maiu'u impressed at 8 last year in NSW cup. also had a look at the NRL.

 

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  #3204642 8-Mar-2024 20:55
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Some real 50/50 penalties in that last 15 mins giving sharks a leg up.

 

IMO was a no try for Sharks, Metcalf was blocked from marker by a player just mulling around the ruck, penalty 9.9/10

 

But cant have Warriors owning the Sharks out of the game.

 

12-6

 

Edit: RTS what are you doing....... soon 12 all


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  #3204650 8-Mar-2024 22:08
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The string of penaltys took the momentum out of warriors excellent first 30, but Warriors had 50 minutes to return to how they were playing so cant blame anyone but themselves.

4/5 of the hard earned index were Warriors forwards, yet they still lost, SJ had it on a string most of his kicks, we just had nobody who could penetrate the opposition defensive line. 

It feels like the playing 17 have lost players, but nope, just bad offense after the 6 penalties in a row by the ref, they have to be able to move passed that and get over the line.

 

Berry was the only one taking the line on, the rest were just taking the tackle.

 

First 30mins Warriors looked like it would end up 40-0. So now they lost at home thats one against a top 8 side they need to win away from home.

 

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  #3204734 9-Mar-2024 09:20
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Pretty poor. Showed a lot of rust, never gelled, passing the ball with no ideas or plans. But a small loss with ragged play is actually a sound result. They will sort it out


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  #3207317 17-Mar-2024 20:14
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First game did show some rust, but started well. Last nights game gave too many free tries off the back of errors, but the second half the Warriors easily won with some stunning play, low error count and field position/possession/completions. Unfortunantely a failed 40m 2pt field goal attempt to put it into golden point by melb, very likely to miss, instead hit a player and back into Storms hands ending in the last seconds with a freak try for them to win it.

 

Im not going to mention the bunker decisions, whats the point anymore. Plus if Warriors had played with less errors first half the bunker decisions wouldnt have mattered.

Either way, it proved the Warriors are very capable vs top teams this year, they just need to stop the errors which gifted the W to the storm in the end.

 

Some very good tries and Tuapiki was superb at FB, as was RTS in centre, DWZ on wing and up the middle and SJ a blinder, with Metcalf really starting to connect well with SJ (not to mention his passing game was brilliant). Offense and defense wont be a problem this year, turning up to play and error rates so far have been. But very good signs despite the two single try losses.


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  #3207347 17-Mar-2024 22:32
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Xavier Coates Try was quite simply, astonishing!


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  #3207349 17-Mar-2024 22:56
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Xavier Coates Try was quite simply, astonishing!

 

 

So much so he didnt even know if he had scored.

and the commentary kept asking themselves why SJ kept kicking to him without challenge, durrrrr. Pinning designated strength players from the opposition has become a very good hallmark of Webbys coaching, shut the threat down on the 5 metre line and hammer them with brisk defense asking them to try and make it out without error (aka good old game of forceback). But only works if they dont drop the ball before they get to SJs pin point kicks.


 
 
 

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  #3208631 20-Mar-2024 15:23
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This would be absurd given how blimmin good Tane Tuapiki looked at FB, getting out of in goal multiple times, creating havoc with his footwork, then RTS is starting to look like the player he use to be way back in the Roosters but in centre, stepping and hitting the NOS creating line breaks. all they need is Tane or Metcalf running off the inside of RTS and it will be a blood bath. When they don't drop the ball this team looks far more offensively destructive than last year. When CNK is back, I wish there was a way to play Tane as him and Metcalf have blinding speed. 

If there was a way to have young Leiataua on the field as well, that guy is like for like with RTS, but Rocko Berry has matured into a fantastic centre. But I wonder if Leiataua could play small forward but be in the offensive passing channel, he would create mayhem back on the inside.

We just need to get guys backing up players, the players being aware the offload is on, because its so often wort the risk inside the opposition 40.

 

But first port of call, get rid of the rookie errors and this team will go a long way to being real contenders.

NRL: Roger Tuivasa-Sheck dismisses calls for return to fullback as he savours new centre role with Warriors | Newshub

 

But the BIG news this week, Egan looks to be back for the Raiders CCH game. I hope Ricky is on the end of some of the 30:70 calls we had go against us last week, will be a grand post match seething sarcastic satire hehe

NRL: Wayde Egan named to start for NZ Warriors in Christchurch clash with Canberra Raiders | Newshub


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  #3208997 21-Mar-2024 06:43
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TeaLeaf:

 

This would be absurd given how blimmin good Tane Tuapiki looked at FB, getting out of in goal multiple times, creating havoc with his footwork, then RTS is starting to look like the player he use to be way back in the Roosters but in centre, stepping and hitting the NOS creating line breaks. all they need is Tane or Metcalf running off the inside of RTS and it will be a blood bath. When they don't drop the ball this team looks far more offensively destructive than last year. When CNK is back, I wish there was a way to play Tane as him and Metcalf have blinding speed. 

If there was a way to have young Leiataua on the field as well, that guy is like for like with RTS, but Rocko Berry has matured into a fantastic centre. But I wonder if Leiataua could play small forward but be in the offensive passing channel, he would create mayhem back on the inside.

We just need to get guys backing up players, the players being aware the offload is on, because its so often wort the risk inside the opposition 40.

 

But first port of call, get rid of the rookie errors and this team will go a long way to being real contenders.

NRL: Roger Tuivasa-Sheck dismisses calls for return to fullback as he savours new centre role with Warriors | Newshub

 

But the BIG news this week, Egan looks to be back for the Raiders CCH game. I hope Ricky is on the end of some of the 30:70 calls we had go against us last week, will be a grand post match seething sarcastic satire hehe

NRL: Wayde Egan named to start for NZ Warriors in Christchurch clash with Canberra Raiders | Newshub

 

 

All sides make errors, just try to stay under average

 

Egan is BIG news? Lussock is fine. At least Lussock can play without being hurt every 10 minutes


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  #3209047 21-Mar-2024 10:21
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Egan is BIG news? Lussock is fine. At least Lussock can play without being hurt every 10 minutes

 

 

Every fan and commentator wants Egan back, he is as essential as SJ in many ways. Even post match aussie media were asking when Egan will be back etc. 

 

Darcy is ok, hes learning, it takes time, a lot of 9s are ex halves, so they have good passing games. Its the interaction in the dummy half or play the ball, know when to pass and when to run, in combination of understanding what your 7 wants to do, that takes a lot of time.

 

What I like about Darcy is his enthusiasm and his speed.

Egans injuries have mostly been Concussions, they cant let them play even if they feel fine etc. This is his first injury in a while, luckily not a biggy. all 9s suffer, is part of running into brick walls haha, ones with head high arms. 

Yep all sides have errors, but not to the point the Warriors have started with. They actually did well to contain the Storm given how many turn overs were inside their own half. The second half showed what a lower error count Warriors can do.

and Webby even went to the point of stating it, their best is better than most. Given the low error count second half and the prolific scoring and the shape they have in the offense now, I have to agree with him. I know he illustrated errors at half time, which clearly worked. Maybe just do this prematch :-) haha

NRL: NZ Warriors coach Andrew Webster unpanicked by winless start to season | Newshub


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  #3209857 23-Mar-2024 13:34
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Great to see a packed house in CCH last night, Ive been saying for years its a NZ team they should be expanding too, not more Qld sides, given how often Canterbury have won the NZRL Comp and just how many players NZ provides the NRL.

Well, not going to mentioned the ref or the bunker errors again, all teams suffer under them.

Still very early in the season with Canberra leading the comp until this game and now the Warriors just outside the 8 with an even for and against, oh what a difference those two painful losses are but they need to forget them and mentally get back to game by game which Webby does so well and smash the knights next week.

Was a very even game for big chunks of the game, once again the Warriors errors letting the opposition back in, Raiders look a lot more gassed though. Such is nature of having to try and get out of your twenty when pinned in the 5m. Great kicking game from both SJ and Metcalf.

Warriors, they have fantastic shape in offense, Tohu filling in for Egan somewhat acting as a 3rd half in our passing game. But I woud like to see a lot more second phase play, with players backing up and players knowing they have a speedster to pass too, we bombed 3 tries holding onto the ball. also I would like to see us go coast to coast as a planned offensive plat, I think we will strip teams for numbers quite easily, rather than being tackled on the edge, but it takes practice as doing it adlib usually ends up in teams losing metres, is a good play from the 40m to score.

 

Metcalf was fantastic, they need to get him and guys like Tuapiki into holes more often as they will burn the opposition.

Berry is turning out to be a monster centre for us, a remember this time last year and we were wondering out of the young guys who would put their hand up, I thought he had one or two more games before they might let him go, but the guy is proving is uncles all blacks pedigree now.

 

Speaking of Tane, suffered a headknock, HIa ruled out which could see him not play next week, they were saying CNK round 5, so, it could mean RTS at FB which sucks as he is proving dynamite breaking the line as centre with his step and burn. But could be opportunity for young LeiaTaua play next week in centre, who is equally, possibly more, destructive. Handy having 3 very good FBs in the team though. Id be tempted to play Tane on the wing, replacing Montoya as he is just so dang quick, you can never have too much speed in the team.

Very high quality defensive game 90%+ efficiency from both teams is high quality. 

Errors a clear stand out again for us, but luckily by end of game we were nearly 80% completions, but really you want to be 85%+. 

Warriors v Raiders - Round 3, 2024 - Match Centre | NRL.com


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  #3209936 23-Mar-2024 18:50
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A great game. Warriors continued to improve. Metcalf was awesome last season, when he missed the playoffs that was huge.

 

Errors happen Ive no issue with that. I watch a few sports and all have errors. Easily fixed, just be reliable and stable. Any player or team can do that, just forget about semis and finals.

 

Raiders seem more committed and active (not saying the Wahs weren't) but they got rewarded. But they didn't win.

 

I see no issue with refs and bunkers, they call it as they see it, and by video. And we won a few of those.

 

If it was the old days , a refs call, well, toss a coin and face Mecca and hope.


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  #3210674 25-Mar-2024 16:02
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It was a high quality game in front of a great crowd. Would love to see more regular NRL in chch.





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  #3210694 25-Mar-2024 16:48
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JPNZ:

 

It was a high quality game in front of a great crowd. Would love to see more regular NRL in chch.

 

 

There is a case to have a SI team. The main benefit is keeping NZ players in NZ, which starts at u16. Its a seriously difficult thing to do for a youngster, to move to aus on a chance. Yet we have far too many high quality NRL players.

Either way, I'd like to see the Warriors play more in CCH, especially with the support they get. Good on the SI League supporters.


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  #3213337 2-Apr-2024 20:53
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The Knights game was a LOT more of a battle than most part time fans would have noticed. It wasnt a try scoring fest like the Storm game where both teams just sliced and diced, it was more of a real grind, where ERRORS are the most important factor in winning and losing. Which is why Webby has nearly banned the offload. Barnett had a couple, which worried me as he is the forward with the most errors in his game in our team, but he offsets that with his runs. 

 

Both teams had 90%+ completions in the first half which with the wind behind the Knights I expected more dropped ball. But with RTS at the back, he dropped the first one but from then on out he played possibly the best game of FB Ive ever seen, both defensively and offensivly, he was everywhere. 283M is insane, there are not many people fit enough to run that many at the intensity he did whilst maintaining high levels of control. Im backing Webbys decision to play CNK at FB, because last year he was unrelenting in returning the ball with interest. What will be interesting is if the spine + RTS can link together, the team has weapons everywhere. But we know Webby has asked them to get this pin them in their corner and let them try to get it out of their 30 without ERROR, which is really why errors are one of the most prominent stas in this sport, because simply, if you error in your own 50 vs a team like the Warriors you are either going to concede points or they are going to ask you to do it again. I think this game is much closer to where Webby wants them before he really lets them loose offensively.

a real shame to lose Metcalf, but luckily we have so many options in the halves. CHT doesnt have metcalfs speed, but hes bigger and stronger and like Johnson he has a pin point kicking game, that one for Montoya to catch and score is perfect, 3-5m from the try line, you just wont stop big outside backs that close 

 

So I do wonder if he will release the offensive playbook a bit the next few games. I wish there was some way to include Tane Tuapiki in the team with his speed, but there just isnt room, which is a good problem to have, same in the halves, same in the centres. We no longer have reserve grade players starting in the team, not to say we wont use them, but next week Pompey goes back to Res Grade/NSW cup, which is a very good team in its own right.

 

Lastly, Wade Egan showed exactly why he has been talked about so much, just matured into a marquees level 9 imo. That line break to setup the try was glimpses of his days as a half back before being forced into hooker for Penrith. 

That one howler bunker decision which without whining, was the difference vs the Storm, just take it 50/50 pretending we win that and we are in the top 4. If this is us at our worst, I think we have a lot to look forward too in upcoming matches. 

 

These stats are about as close as you get, both teams incredibly high level, Warriors nearing 90% completions. and even though both teams had near 90% tackle efficiency, I think the Warriors one it how Webby would like to see in such close matches, firstly pinning them in their 30 so often, but the defense to hold them there, but most impressively with 4 from memory, errors in our own 40m, our defense not only held on, it was to brutal it forced errors from them to give the ball back.

In summary, a purist game of Rugby League. I think we will see the spine will soon link with our weapons running off their hip, much like the try Egan setup, CNK, RTS, CHT,  etc backing up the 9 and halves when breaking the line or sending someone through it ie aFB, Niukore, Berry, Barnett etc.

Warriors v Knights - Round 4, 2024 - Match Centre | NRL.coms


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