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TeaLeaf

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  #2169064 28-Jan-2019 16:16
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Williamson needed to loft the ball over that player and its 4. But he hits it directly to the fielder.




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  #2169072 28-Jan-2019 16:25
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Styris is spot on. India isnt far superior, NZ has hit a confused low period. As they said the same batting line up destroyed India in India 14months ago and nothing has changed since then.

 

I just feel messing with the lineup and poor preparation we just dont have the assertiveness we had 14 monhths ago,

How do we fix that, play our best 11 and play the last 2 with that team. Maybe change up the operners with Latham and Munro swapping line up.


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  #2169121 28-Jan-2019 17:12
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Why was lbw not out? It hit the pad and wickets



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  #2169132 28-Jan-2019 17:49
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Bugger, but he was in the zone so I’m ok with that. The pity is while we have a good tail this is a good set of bowlers.

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  #2169136 28-Jan-2019 17:59
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This is the problem these last batsmen want to join in the fray but they aren’t up to it. Rotate

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  #2169143 28-Jan-2019 18:13
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The RR will fall from here. As Ive said all along we bat to a target and forget who the opposition is. Taylor and Latham scored at a low rate, game the Indians respect, then were going on at 6.5 an over. Well managed. Due to the openers panicking, we are left with the tail, who while are pretty ok, will drop the RR, and that will cause rash shots


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  #2169152 28-Jan-2019 18:29
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WASP 260 is now max score. Unless these last ones have a lash and get lucky.


 
 
 

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  #2169157 28-Jan-2019 18:34
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tdgeek:

 

WASP 260 is now max score. Unless these last ones have a lash and get lucky.

 

 

Once again it shows how reliant they are on one batsman playing an absolutely stonking innings while the rest of them fall away around him. If no one has a stonking innings, then we're lucky to clear 150. 

 

We don't have the bowling strike power for this kind of batting.


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  #2169163 28-Jan-2019 18:41
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GV27:

 

tdgeek:

 

WASP 260 is now max score. Unless these last ones have a lash and get lucky.

 

 

Once again it shows how reliant they are on one batsman playing an absolutely stonking innings while the rest of them fall away around him. If no one has a stonking innings, then we're lucky to clear 150. 

 

We don't have the bowling strike power for this kind of batting.

 

 

Yep. Its easy to see where all out for 150 comes from. It also shows to me at least that you don't need to go out with a 350, 325, 300 mindset. We were at 3.7 RR for a long while. Taylor and Latham batted steadily, priority is stay in, not runs. As the game went on, ball older, lesser bowlers have seen them doing 6.6 RR. 260 could have been had WASP is now 250, one extra opener batting like Taylor and Latham makes that close to 300. Remove the pressure on Guppy and Williamson to take less risks and its more again.

 

The problem exists between the ears.


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  #2169167 28-Jan-2019 18:48
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...and we are yet to bat out an innings this series. 


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  #2169174 28-Jan-2019 18:58
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...and we are yet to bat out an innings this series. 

 

 

On that, a stat I picked up in the commentary. We have the highest runs scored in a 3 match series, 1048 or thereabouts. Sri Lanka. With India as you say, can't finish an innings, second highest partnership this game 24 runs.

 

I want some character in our bowling innings. The batting solution is obvious, unless you are the coach or batting coach. Get the runs you can get, assess the game as you go. IT IS WHAT IT IS (a saying I hate)

 

There are always positives, and my positive is getting this team back to reality, you wont win WC by smashing Sri Lanka. Imagine us having a wonderful series against SL just before the World Cup. Respect to SL, they are rebuilding, but we need hard and ruthless competition. We have that now.


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  #2169258 28-Jan-2019 19:31
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We definitely 50 runs short.

 

I feel like we cant only really rely on Williamson and Taylor and possibly Latham, the rest of the team are not performing.

 

Why is it so easy for India to hit fours along the carpet. As I said their bowling is so consistant to a fielding team that are in positions to stop NZ,s batting.

 

Williamson was a prime example,he got so frustrated he couldnt find the gaps.


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  #2169259 28-Jan-2019 19:37
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I think Southee will be in the 11 replacinf Bracewell and Nessham will replace Santner.


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  #2169345 28-Jan-2019 22:38
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There top and middle order figures is how ous should be looking. Messing with the middle with 3 players per game just makes the middle very unsettled.

Our openers need work for sure. Guptil was our pillar. I think he has to stay. We know for sure Munro can belt it and will go hard from the beggining. Perhaps we need to seriously consider that swap for Latham who is use to opening and is now a solid srtike rate player. Munro down the line makes sense.

I think Bracewell might replace Colin in the squad but he wont be first 11, Southee will be there and Neesham will be the all rounder.

So far thats Santner and Brace well in squad for the WC. I think we need to try some batsmen, now we have lost the series we may as well use it to test our batting stock, which is a bit limited.


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  #2169347 28-Jan-2019 22:44
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TeaLeaf:

 

Styris is spot on. India isnt far superior, NZ has hit a confused low period. As they said the same batting line up destroyed India in India 14months ago and nothing has changed since then.

 

I just feel messing with the lineup and poor preparation we just dont have the assertiveness we had 14 monhths ago,

How do we fix that, play our best 11 and play the last 2 with that team. Maybe change up the operners with Latham and Munro swapping line up.

 

 

They still lost the series 2-1 in India so destroyed isn't entirely correct. Should have won the last match however failed to finish. We can't keep living in denial that the others are not so good and we are not that bad. Yes we are not that bad however 3 games in a row NZ have been beaten comprehensively. It can't be a fluke 3 times. Coming to SL series even they managed to almost pull off a target of 372. So lets stop living in a denial mode and admit there is a lot of hard work and shuffling required in order to be competitive at the World Cup.





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