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  #3306192 6-Nov-2024 20:45
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Republicans have the House + Senate + Oval Office !

 

Who has America ?

 

Because it isn’t Trump or the Republicans !

 

He will bend and break the Oath of Office on the first day.

 

There will be no impeachments, just get out of jail free cards for the boot lickers and go to jail for all the “enemies within”.

 

America is Screwed !





Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.




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  #3306195 6-Nov-2024 20:50
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nasty ...

 

 

The NY Times





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  #3306198 6-Nov-2024 21:03
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Yes it looks bad. There are many good reasons to count every vote before calling this one regardless of who is winning in the media. Models are terrible.




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  #3306203 6-Nov-2024 21:23
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Kyanar: Stein won't work with anyone. She's a stooge intended solely to steal votes away from Democrats, funded by Russia. An absolutely disgraceful stain on the Green movement.

 

Jill Stein did not expect to be the Green Party candidate this year. Cornel West was going to be the Green Party candidate.

 

West became frustrated at the Green Party process to officially nominate a candidate - lots of consensus meetings or something like that I gather - West pulled out of all that to run as an independent candidate for President instead. There was no policy disagreement as far as I know. Both oppose providing weapons for the occupation of Gaza.

 

People with civilian family members dead or starving in Gaza were never going to vote for either of the major party candidates. The third party candidates provided a genuine alternative.


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  #3306218 6-Nov-2024 21:48
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Harris did not publicly engage with Arab and Muslim American voters. In one well known case the party prevented a conference entry for a well known Muslim American Democratic Party activist.

 

Trump did engage, opened campaign offices in cities with Muslim populations, and was publicly endorsed as the peace candidate in return:

 

 

earlier visiting a Muslim owned restaurant in Michigan:

 

 

Imam explains his reasoning, his engagement with Trump, and his endorsement of Trump:

 

 

At 10:35 in the video above you can see Rudy Giuliani at a campaign event the next day ranting against Palestinians, and by implication as usual, Muslims generally in the usual maga wall style.

 

The logical choice for many people was 3rd Party. There is no need to blame 3rd party candidates for that situation.


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  #3306220 6-Nov-2024 21:50
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Made a note in my diary on the way here. Simply says, 'bugger'.


 
 
 
 

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  #3306269 6-Nov-2024 22:05
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If there's any silver lining to this (I guess), at least he can't run again in 2028.


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  #3306271 6-Nov-2024 22:09
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quickymart: If there's any silver lining to this (I guess), at least he can't run again in 2028.

 

Same with that other guy, what was his name again, Vladimir something?  He stepped down at the end of his two terms in 2008 and has been living quietly in retirement since then.

 

Also, who says there'll be more elections in the US in 2028?


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  #3306272 6-Nov-2024 22:11
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He has a number of children to continue the dynasty. 


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  #3306273 6-Nov-2024 22:17
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gzt:

 

Yes it looks bad. There are many good reasons to count every vote before calling this one regardless of who is winning in the media. Models are terrible.

 

 

talking about the media, I was questioning the media's polls earlier that projected a Harris win, but it's turning out to be like 2016 again.


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  #3306275 6-Nov-2024 22:19
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neb:

quickymart: If there's any silver lining to this (I guess), at least he can't run again in 2028.


Same with that other guy, what was his name again, Vladimir something?  He stepped down at the end of his two terms in 2008 and has been living quietly in retirement since then.


Also, who says there'll be more elections in the US in 2028?


Are you serious? I’ll take $1000 bets with anyone that Trump won’t attempt a third term.

 
 
 

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  #3306276 6-Nov-2024 22:20
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People let’s just breathe deeply and chill. The world did not end in 2016 and won’t in 2024 either.

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  #3306279 6-Nov-2024 22:22
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quickymart:

 

If there's any silver lining to this (I guess), at least he can't run again in 2028.

 



 

Neither can Biden, Nor Harris for that matter if the Democrats start growing some brains. The Dems have only themselves to blame, performing so poorly this time around that they’ve handed Trump the popular vote.

 

In my opinion, this is a good result, because Harris would have been a disaster with her woke agenda. Americans will be better off under Trump, even if you don’t like the guy.


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  #3306281 6-Nov-2024 22:30
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Wombat1:

 

Neither can Biden, Nor Harris for that matter if the Democrats start growing some brains. The Dems have only themselves to blame, performing so poorly this time around that they’ve handed Trump the popular vote.

 

In my opinion, this is a good result, because Harris would have been a disaster with her woke agenda. Americans will be better off under Trump, even if you don’t like the guy.

 

 

Actually they can run again, but they probably won't. Biden would be too old by 2028 and unfortunately for Harris, she fell short this time.

 

Better in what way? When his 20% tariffs kick in - for one thing? Yes, I'm sure everyone will be just loving that.

 

How about looking past the Republicans obsession with culture wars and focusing on what Americans are really suffering with instead? I'm sure they don't sit around their dinnertable at night complaining about "woke-ism".


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  #3306282 6-Nov-2024 22:32
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johno1234: People let’s just breathe deeply and chill. The world did not end in 2016 and won’t in 2024 either.

 

Jon Stewart had a somewhat calming post-election analysis (one of the few I've seen so far):

 


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