Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#1666722 9-Nov-2016 17:15

At least there's a bright side - we don't have to move to NZ to avoid living in the Trump Empire.

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#1666723 9-Nov-2016 17:17

mattwnz:

It is interesting how much the US media are still saying it could go either way, and may come down to single state.

I think they're still keen on retaining viewers/readers.

My quick count, the minimum Trump will get is 275. Not much doubt now that he will be the next president.

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#1666725 9-Nov-2016 17:18

I've always said that Americans are just mad enough to vote Trumpy in. Hell, they voted the shrub in twice and look what an idiot he was.

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#1666726 9-Nov-2016 17:18

Fred99:

At least there's a bright side - we don't have to move to NZ to avoid living in the Trump Empire.

Maybe it will push up house prices as people move to NZ. Oh wait, that has already happened.

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#1666727 9-Nov-2016 17:19

Fred99:

At least there's a bright side - we don't have to move to NZ to avoid living in the Trump Empire.

What makes you think we are safe here?

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#1666729 9-Nov-2016 17:20

mattwnz:
It is interesting how much the US media are still saying it could go either way, and may come down to single state.

It is amazing in the US how in some states you can vote, and then later change your vote later. Also people can campaign during the voting. NZs system just sounds so much better, albeit a bit Draconian . I wonder how it would have fared if the FBI stuff hadn't come out last week.

Ever hopeful?

Anyone else see the similarities with Brexit here? Rise of the working man in outrage at the way the "elite" have been treating their concerns... not always the result they want (or in this case the candidate they need) but flipping the bird to the big guy is still the goal!

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#1666730 9-Nov-2016 17:25

Rikkitic:

Fred99:

At least there's a bright side - we don't have to move to NZ to avoid living in the Trump Empire.

What makes you think we are safe here?

Optimism Trump's forgotten where NZ is.

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#1666742 9-Nov-2016 17:35

PhantomNVD:

Anyone else see the similarities with Brexit here? Rise of the working man in outrage at the way the "elite" have been treating their concerns... not always the result they want (or in this case the candidate they need) but flipping the bird to the big guy is still the goal!

Yes. Also that there are "false prophets" pushing what really is a socialist nationalist agenda. It's not just the "elites" in the gunsights, but minorities to pin the blame on. Very scary.

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#1666744 9-Nov-2016 17:35

Fred99:

Rikkitic:

Fred99:

At least there's a bright side - we don't have to move to NZ to avoid living in the Trump Empire.

What makes you think we are safe here?

Optimism Trump's forgotten where NZ is.

He has been here though!

Btw, a draw is quite possible with the US system.

That could create some big problems.

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#1666745 9-Nov-2016 17:44

PhantomNVD:
mattwnz:
It is interesting how much the US media are still saying it could go either way, and may come down to single state.

It is amazing in the US how in some states you can vote, and then later change your vote later. Also people can campaign during the voting. NZs system just sounds so much better, albeit a bit Draconian . I wonder how it would have fared if the FBI stuff hadn't come out last week.

Ever hopeful?

Anyone else see the similarities with Brexit here? Rise of the working man in outrage at the way the "elite" have been treating their concerns... not always the result they want (or in this case the candidate they need) but flipping the bird to the big guy is still the goal!

Yes it is basically Brexit all over again, although this was more predicted.

The scary thing is that it is likely to happen in NZ too. The divide between rich and poor has grown, and the current two big parties are so similar, that many people are wanting a change. At the moment, many people will never be able to afford to buy a house NZ, due to the prices being so high, and wages are so relatively low compared to house prices. That is going to create a lot of negative feelings.