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  #2776066 10-Sep-2021 14:49
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BBC News - Covid: Biden orders employees of big businesses to be vaccinated or face testing

 

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US President Joe Biden has announced sweeping new Covid-19 measures that require workers at large companies to be vaccinated or face weekly testing.

 

The measures include a vaccine mandate for millions of federal government workers and come as Mr Biden faces pressure to combat a surge in cases.

 

Over 650,000 Americans have died with Covid-19 and hospitals are at capacity.

 

In an address at the White House on Thursday, Mr Biden directed the US Department of Labor to require all private businesses with 100 or more staff to mandate the jab or request proof of a negative coronavirus test from employees at least once a week.

 

The order will affect about 80 million workers.

 



 

 

 

 

The Washington Post - Biden announces sweeping new vaccine mandates for businesses, federal workers

 

The New York Times - Biden Mandates Vaccines for Workers, Saying, ‘Our Patience Is Wearing Thin’

 

 

 

In the immortal words of Sir Humphrey Appleby: "A brave decision, minister"  😐

 

 

 

[EDIT]  Posted here rather than in the COVID thread, because this decision is highly political in the US context.





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  #2776096 10-Sep-2021 15:18
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Of course, the Republicans will be absolutely apoplectic that the President tried to do something to stop this thing that is "just a flu" that "only affects old people...or those who have underlying conditions"...so says their (former) Dear Leader.


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  #2776104 10-Sep-2021 15:33
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quickymart:  Of course, the Republicans will be absolutely apoplectic that the President tried to do something to stop this thing that is "just a flu" that "only affects old people...or those who have underlying conditions"...so says their (former) Dear Leader.

 



 

George Washington mandated smallpox vaccination of the Continental Army in 1777:

 

 

 

 

The Washington Post - Mandatory immunization for the military: As American as George Washington  26 Aug 2021





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Announced today: The US, the UK and Australia have announced they are setting up a trilateral security partnership aimed at confronting China, which will include helping Australia to build nuclear-powered submarines.

Biden shares stage with Boris John and Australian prime minister Scott Morrison

Guess who's name he forgot.

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=184&topicid=289195&page_no=2#2779359

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  #2779457 16-Sep-2021 17:36
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From a recent poll, 68% of Americans say that the recent rise in COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. was preventable. However, 51% of Americans disagree with Biden's measures to prevent it (for Republicans, 89% disapprove).

 

 

So nearly 70% of Americans agree that the problem is preventable, but nearly 90% of Republicans, and 51% overall, are opposed to measures to prevent it.

 

 

Kind of at a loss for words here.

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  #2786223 29-Sep-2021 12:34
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The Washington Post - Negotiations between Biden, Democrats intensify as $4 trillion agenda hits stalemate

 

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Negotiations between the White House and top Democratic lawmakers intensified Tuesday as President Biden scrambled to save roughly $4 trillion in economic initiatives from an embarrassing setback at the hands of his own party.

 

Liberal-leaning House Democrats hope to spend as much as $3.5 trillion in that bill in a bid to remake federal health-care, education and climate laws, financed chiefly through tax increases. 

 

But some moderates, led by Sens. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), have continued to reject the price tag and policy scope of the measure, frustrating their Democratic counterparts on Capitol Hill.

 





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  #2788240 2-Oct-2021 13:37
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The Washington Post - Opinion: Party first, country be damned

 

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There’s nothing Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell won’t do to regain power.





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  #2788268 2-Oct-2021 14:13
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I thought him and Joe got along okay?


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  #2788290 2-Oct-2021 15:51
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quickymart: I thought him and Joe got along okay?

It's all negotiation. In practice with fillibusters used at all times they need 60% to get most things done these days. Not a balanced democracy for voters.

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  #2790031 5-Oct-2021 16:33
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Some depressing reading:

 

The Washington Post - Opinion: Biden’s polling numbers are even worse than they appear

 

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Democrats are rightly worried about President Biden’s poor job approval ratings. A closer look at his ratings among independents shows Democrats should be even more worried than they are.

 

Biden’s overall job approval ratings are bad enough. Only 45.1 percent of Americans approve of his performance per Monday’s RealClearPolitics average; 47.9 percent disapprove. 

 

That alone makes Biden less popular at this stage of his presidency than any president in the past 40 years except for Donald Trump. 

 

Among independents, however, Biden is about as unpopular as Trump was at this stage in his presidency. An average of only 39 percent of independents approved of Biden’s performance in the three polls taken between Sept. 18 and 26  ...

 

The fact that Biden is about as unpopular among independents as Trump was then shows how truly politically damaged Biden is right now and should set off fire alarms in every Democratic campaign office. ...

 





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  #2790059 5-Oct-2021 17:22
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I pretty much stopped following American political news after Biden was inaugurated. I just find it too depressing. It is like the gods have conspired together to grind the American dream into the dust. Whatever happens with Trump, the next president is likely to be an aspiring fascist propped up by religious fanatics while an uncaring Supreme Court looks on. Rome didn't fall in a day, and neither will the US, but everything that was generous and noble about that country is gradually being snuffed out. Soon the howling mobs will rule and we will all bow to China.

 

  





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I actually feel sorry for Joe. He's trying to make a go of it, which is quite difficult given the God-awful mess he inherited from the orange buffoon. It's not a job I would want to have.


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  #2790180 5-Oct-2021 18:07
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quickymart:

I actually feel sorry for Joe. He's trying to make a go of it, which is quite difficult given the God-awful mess he inherited from the orange buffoon. It's not a job I would want to have.

 

 

Long ago while chatting to a corporate lawyer he mentioned to me that his badge of office should be a slop bucket and a mop.

 

 

Biden's badge of office would have to be a sewer pump truck. With the Retrumplicans shooting holes in the side as fast as they can.

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  #2790184 5-Oct-2021 18:23
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Many of the conclusions in the reporting above are breathless hyperbole when you look at more data:

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/30/1041602893/bidens-approval-rating-recovers-some-from-last-months-low-an-npr-poll-finds

Analysis includes "Republicans are essentially maxed out in their disapproval of Biden" ; ).

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  #2790257 5-Oct-2021 21:20
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But that was a given anyway, his name's not Trump, so anything he does is automatically going to be "crap" to them.

 

I miss the days when American politics were civil. Trump screwed all that up (amongst many, many other things) and made it all really toxic, IMO.


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