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ezbee

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#3004833 2-Dec-2022 17:56

Flawed recollection.

Wack a mole did not eliminate, but was reducing availability.
Though broader legislation was possible to avoid this silly situation.
( As eventually forced by the rolling disaster it became )

To keep Peter Dunnes vote though hands were tied.
There was also a fantasy that chemists were creating harmless non additive drugs that would turn into a great money earner for the economy.

Legal high shops selling out ahead of ban
10:01 pm on 7 May 2014

Many legal high shops nationwide have sold out ahead of a midnight ban on psychoactive substances, which the industry claims will force at least 30 business to close.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/243599/legal-high-shops-selling-out-ahead-of-ban

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The products will be allowed back on shelves only after being proven to be safe, without testing on animals.
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Given creators knew these were not safe, this effectively banned them all.
No need for wack a mole of testing each new substance by Government to ban one by one.

Which could have been done at the start, but for lack of interest, and need for Peter Dunne's vote.

Given escalating emergency room visits and tragic stories finally.
Finally, Parliament did something.

Its a great pity John Key did not support legalizing marijuana instead of synthetics.
Using across party support if need be, which he would have got.

itxtme

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#3004937 2-Dec-2022 23:19

ezbee:

Flawed recollection.

Given creators knew these were not safe, this effectively banned them all.
No need for wack a mole of testing each new substance by Government to ban one by one.

Which could have been done at the start, but for lack of interest, and need for Peter Dunne's vote.

Yes this is what I said - the original law was without protection from novel lab synthesised drugs - a loophole of old law, and the legislation fixed it. It got cross party support too so not sure what you mean by Peter Dunnes vote?

"The BS claims about inventing designer drugs with no addictive qualities or dangers.
Results were quite the opposite, and seeemd to get worse over time.
Where were regulators monitoring this ?

It was a terrible experiment that ruined lives."

What experiment? The legislation worked

Using this as you rational for why Cannabis should remain illegal makes no sense, as one is inherently safe, while the other is not. One was a new type of threat that had never existed as a problem in the world prior to that time frame. A law was made, and fixed the issue.

ezbee

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#3005592 4-Dec-2022 14:08

Inherently safe?

The synthetic industry disaster was not the endpoint, but the extended process before that.
Endpoint had more to do with the 'Easter Bunny' than perhaps Dunne's intent.

It was not till much later that John Keys famous 'Easter Bunny' comment.
More stringent 'amended' process effectively killed synthetic approval after all these delays.

All is perhaps not what it may seem with Peter Dunne.

Cannabis referendum: Kiwis could have had legal weed 15 years ago, but politicians disagree on whose fault it is we don't
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/cannabis-referendum-kiwis-could-have-had-legal-weed-15-years-ago-but-politicians-disagree-on-whose-fault-it-is-we-don-t.html

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Asked why she didn't change the law back when she was in charge, Clark said she wanted to.

"But I was stuck for the last six years I was PM with confidence and supply agreements with United Future, and they specifically wrote into them that the Government would make no move on cannabis law reform."
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A lost opportunity.
Years wasted on synthetics delayed any moves on marijuana,
something we at least had decades of study on.
Dented Public confidence.
Then we had referendum.

My point is the 'well is a bit poisoned'
Really it needs a cross party agreement to move quickly now we had the referendum.
Labour, Greens would be willing, but you have to get National and partners on board.

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