How much would go to Rudy personally, I wonder.

Sideface:

The Republican Party has agreed to pay up to $1.6 million in legal bills for former president Donald Trump to help him fight investigations into his business practices in New York, according to Republican National Committee (RNC) members and others briefed on the decision. ...

Finally. Trump is starting to get worried about the January 6 investigation as it gets closer to his circle of lies:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/20/capitol-attack-investigation-closes-in-trump

So he should be worried! I hope his house of cards crumbles rapidly. Long overdue that he got some comeuppance.

quickymart:

 

Finally. Trump is starting to get worried about the January 6 investigation as it gets closer to his circle of lies:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/20/capitol-attack-investigation-closes-in-trump

 

So he should be worried! I hope his house of cards crumbles rapidly. Long overdue that he got some comeuppance.

 

If history has taught us anything it's that Trump is unlikely to face the consequences he deserves. The only thing that would have any impact is a conviction of a federal crime, which would make him ineligible to run for President again. I can't see that  happening, and imagine what would happen to an already divided country if it actually did. His election loss resulted in an attempted insurrection, what do you think would happen if the evil, pedophile, baby eating Dems framed and falsely convicted him.

In case it's not obvious, the italicized words are some of the crazy QAnon beliefs; not my own!

Oh I don't want him dead or shot or anything stupid, I just wish, for once, he would see the consequences of his selfish actions.

Disturbingly, a large number of Republicans don't think he lost the election. And I daresay they aren't all crazy, QAnon loving morons either.

Did the Democrats do this sort of thing when Gore lost in 2000? (I was going through a relationship breakup at the time so genuinely don't remember).

quickymart:

 

Oh I don't want him dead or shot or anything stupid, I just wish, for once, he would see the consequences of his selfish actions.

 

Disturbingly, a large number of Republicans don't think he lost the election. And I daresay they aren't all crazy, QAnon loving morons either.

 

Did the Democrats do this sort of thing when Gore lost in 2000? (I was going through a relationship breakup at the time so genuinely don't remember).

 

No they're not, but they'll be the ring leaders and many will follow because they may not believe the really insane stuff, but they will believe enough - like the idea of rigged elections and show trials.

The 2000 election was very close (for real), ultimately coming down to fewer than 600 votes in Florida. And there were also arguments over the "butterfly" ballets in Palm Beach which were a terrible design, and it was argued many people wanting to vote Gore accidentally cast their vote for the wrong candidate (the design was such that similar voting errors by Bush supporters would be far less likely). On top of that, the Governor of Florida at the time was Jeb Bush, which doesn't look great from a perception point of view.

But ultimately when the legal avenues were exhausted, Gore conceded. Trump still hasn't conceded, and never will.

Paul1977: The only thing that would have any impact is a conviction of a federal crime, which would make him ineligible to run for President again. I can't see that  happening, and imagine what would happen to an already divided country if it actually did.

I thought something like 70% of Republican voters supported Trump? Not sure where I read that, might have been Politico.

It depends on what you mean by support. I think 70% probably voted for him and support the policies attributed to him, but only 20% are fanatical acolytes who think he is the second coming.

Rikkitic:

It depends on what you mean by support. I think 70% probably voted for him and support the policies attributed to him, but only 20% are fanatical acolytes who think he is the second coming.

Rikkitic:

 

It depends on what you mean by support. I think 70% probably voted for him and support the policies attributed to him, but only 20% are fanatical acolytes who think he is the second coming.

 

Something like 2/3 of Republicans believe the election was rigged.

Paul1977: Something like 2/3 of Republicans believe the election was rigged.

gzt: I'll take a guess that one is support for restricting voting to those who can produce a photo id valid driver's licence or some question like that